# Rules breaches on SiSi in T5Z **URL:** \ **Category:** Test Server Feedback\ **Created:** [April 13, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403 "2021-04-13T17:03:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Namahanna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namahanna/32/267039_2.png) [@Namahanna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namahanna)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/1 "2021-04-13T17:03:13Z")
The T5Z Keepstar has been killed on SiSi in violation of SiSi rules. - Combat by consent only, except in the designated combat system (M-OEE8). - The rule concerning non-consensual combat includes all structures (including POS and Upwell structures). Do not attack structures without permission from the owner! Screenshot proof: [https://i.imgur.com/YwjQCu4.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YwjQCu4.jpg) Followup commenter posts noted that they are doing this for metagame reason to gather intel or “Imperium just check if server could survive to can generation when T5Z keepstar will die.” which also sounds to be in violation of “mass creation of objects in space that can affect server performance” > **[r/Eve - Goonswarm Federation has killed the T5Z Keepstar......on SiSi. Winning?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/mq5kdl/goonswarm_federation_has_killed_the_t5z/)** > > 0 votes and 20 comments so far on Reddit ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/2 "2021-04-13T17:41:41Z")
Make a bug report via F12 on sisi ---
**Author:** ![Namahanna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namahanna/32/267039_2.png) [@Namahanna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namahanna)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/3 "2021-04-13T17:47:04Z")
Good idea. EBR-217744 Using the test server for metagame purposes should be dealt with and never tolerated. Corp hangars hold a lot of strategic assets, you can get a lot of intel on dread and fax cache. ---
**Author:** ![Tar\_Dacon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tar_dacon/32/248753_2.png) [@Tar\_Dacon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tar_Dacon)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/4 "2021-04-13T18:34:01Z")
Well 1DQ1-A First Imperial Palace ( Goon Keepstar ) died weeks ago too… ---
**Author:** ![Namahanna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namahanna/32/267039_2.png) [@Namahanna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namahanna)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/5 "2021-04-13T18:42:59Z")
The people who did that should be dealt with in the same manner. One group breaking rules is not an excuse for another to do the same. ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/6 "2021-04-13T20:12:34Z")
This is why CCP was running a script to relocate all assets out of structures during mirrors. I know the last mirror had a lot of issues for the first day. I wonder if this effort got scrapped as part of trying to get Sisi working properly afterward? By the way, CCP staff have commented before that they don’t enforce Sisi rules outside of Mass Test scenarios - there aren’t any staff dedicated to Sisi for that purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Gaming513\_Tyler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaming513_tyler/32/360798_2.png) [@Gaming513\_Tyler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaming513_Tyler)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/7 "2021-04-13T20:41:10Z")
I don’t think CCP cares. The rules get violated every day in M-OEE8 with input broadcasted dreadbombs/titanbombs but they never get banned lol ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/8 "2021-04-13T23:02:52Z")
See above ---
**Author:** ![1FSTCAT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/1fstcat/32/252733_2.png) [@1FSTCAT](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/1FSTCAT)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/9 "2021-04-14T00:14:15Z")
I would reccomend against this, ISD members have recently posted saying that bug reports are not for rule violations. I personally have done a bug report on players using isboxer to bring it to CCP attention and it doesn’t work like that. There was a post i read a week ago by isd where they are saying about the bug report issue and the problem they bring up is that GMs are the enforcer and Devs are the developers. **Bug reports go to devs and if you want GMs than you really need to send in a support ticket** , which I nearly did do for the botters but if those cheaters come back to sisi again than I am ready to make a new relevant support ticket if I see a point where they do more damage than they create content. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/10 "2021-04-14T00:23:47Z")
on SISI the only way to get attention for anything like that is bug report. ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/11 "2021-04-14T00:24:58Z")
Per ISD Sakimura: > [@Input broadcasting by a large 250 character coalition](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/input-broadcasting-by-a-large-250-character-coalition/292868/32): > > EULA/ToS violations should be reported through the Support Ticket system, and **SISI rule violations should be reported via the ingame “report a bug”.** Emphasis mine. ---
**Author:** ![1FSTCAT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/1fstcat/32/252733_2.png) [@1FSTCAT](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/1FSTCAT)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/12 "2021-04-14T00:25:55Z")
good point and last few mirrors the military leadership of imperium had to come onto sisi and waste time removing intel that papi could take because it was being done to them. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Golem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_golem/32/376192_2.png) [@ISD\_Golem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Golem)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/13 "2021-04-14T00:29:46Z")
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**Author:** ![ISD\_Golem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_golem/32/376192_2.png) [@ISD\_Golem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Golem)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/14 "2021-04-14T00:31:00Z")
Please submit a support ticket as the forums is not the appropriate place to report this. Closing for below. ### **2.** **Specifically restricted content.** EVE Online holds ESRB Teen and PEGI 12 ratings. All content posted to the EVE Online forums must be teen rated. In addition to this, the EVE Online forums are not for discussion of real life current affairs, news, politics or religion. Discussion should revolve around EVE Online and its community. For these reasons, specific content is prohibited on the EVE Online forums. These are: - Pornography - Profanity - Real Money Trading (RMT) - Discussion of Warnings & Bans - Discussion of Moderation - Private communications with CCP - In-Game Bugs & Exploits - Real World Religion - Real World Politics - Content that distorts the forum layout ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Golem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_golem/32/376192_2.png) [@ISD\_Golem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Golem)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/15 "2021-12-06T20:01:45Z")
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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/16 "2021-12-07T04:38:04Z")
bug report not support ticket… FYI ---
**Author:** ![Amak\_Boma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amak_boma/32/274822_2.png) [@Amak\_Boma](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amak_Boma)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/17 "2021-12-09T12:54:50Z")
well there is no GM’s that are designed for sisi… when i did send support ticket about very not nice player behavior (blowing up my revelation in amarr using his nyx shadow fighters) they did say go to forum into singularity test server section and post it there… when i tried use bugreport about another player doing similar thing (ganking me in highsec,killing my autopiloted freighter) the bugreport was converted into support ticket that was closed without solving issue but copy/paste same formula - post it on singularity forum section… dont want your citadel destroyed on sisi? just dont let it go abandoned,do what amamake keepstar/sotiyo people do - dump 2 million of fuel blocks and it wont go abandoned for whole mirror time and rinse repeat evry next mirror so you never lose your citadel. ---
**Author:** ![MinorFreak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minorfreak/32/401122_2.png) [@MinorFreak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinorFreak)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/18 "2022-02-21T17:15:17Z")
wait a minute…how come people’s assets weren’t automatically shoved into asset safety? ---
**Author:** ![Koebmand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koebmand/32/304342_2.png) [@Koebmand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Koebmand)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/19 "2022-03-02T00:40:53Z")
If an Upwell is abandoned when destroyed, there is no asset safety (Abandoned being a newish thing). ---
**Author:** ![MinorFreak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minorfreak/32/401122_2.png) [@MinorFreak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinorFreak)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2022, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403/20 "2022-03-03T06:02:35Z")
on singularity? [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rules-breaches-on-sisi-in-t5z/305403.md?page=2)