# Rumours of Amarr's death have been greatly exaggerated **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 22, 2020, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236 "2020-10-22T08:19:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/61 "2020-11-20T08:38:51Z")
You’re perfectly right 👍 They do look like bugs. One even looks like a ladybug. Very interesting creatures, tough as nails too. I stepped on a big roach twice and she still wasn’t dead. That’s the sort of armor I want in space combat… Buttplug?? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/62 "2020-11-20T08:40:37Z")
The Avatar. Buttplug. I am NOT going to explain this! 😛 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/63 "2020-11-20T08:43:55Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > NOT going to explain this I thought we were discussing esthetic, not functionality 😝 ---
**Author:** ![Pertti\_Perusheppu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pertti_perusheppu/32/244021_2.png) [@Pertti\_Perusheppu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pertti_Perusheppu)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/64 "2020-11-20T08:56:39Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > What are you talking about? The whole point of removing Niarja was to encourage independent regional economies and stimulate growth outside of Jita. Nobody with a clue thought that was bad for Amarr. I was trying to be sarcastic, but I guess I failed at it. 🙂 Though personally I was in it for chaos and general mayhem, but I digress. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/65 "2020-11-20T08:59:24Z")
Most of that growth comes only from increased prices of minerals and other related items. That other smaller hubs don’t see the same “growth” is easily explained with their lack of minerals in their mix. Just look at the difference in Pyerite volume between [Sinq Laison](https://evemarketer.com/regions/10000032/types/35/history) and [Domain](https://evemarketer.com/regions/10000043/types/35/history). ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/66 "2020-11-20T11:59:04Z")
Domain has more volume than Sinq Laison in pretty much everything according to eve marketer. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/67 "2020-11-20T13:17:13Z")
When CCP disallowed the moaning whores to be heard in gallentean stations … … it marked the beginning of the end of Dodixie. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Lfod\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lfod_shi/32/376240_2.png) [@Lfod\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lfod_Shi)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/68 "2020-11-20T16:10:56Z")
Sometimes I miss my old “SJS Dung Beetle”. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/69 "2020-11-20T16:18:47Z")
> [@Lfod\_Shi](#): > > SJS Dung Beetle I … don’t get the reference? ---
**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/70 "2020-11-20T18:23:58Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > Manipulation is much more likely reason for a large chunk of this ridiculous growth than an actually thriving market. Define thriving market? All you’re describing is a PPP between Amarr and Jita. It doesn’t describe actual inflation, or such: for that you must compare against income in Amarr region and associated Null corridors. Then you can determine that Amarrians are paying more for their lifestyle or not. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/71 "2020-11-20T18:28:04Z")
> [@Alistair\_Atreides](#): > > Define thriving market? One with plenty of street performers. ---
**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/72 "2020-11-20T18:40:01Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > I … don’t get the reference? “Sovereign’s Jerk Ship - _Dung Beetle_” Prince of Amarr’s quite famous Poon-hound back in the day, if I’m not mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/73 "2020-11-20T18:52:23Z")
Never heard of him either. Damn. -.- ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/74 "2020-11-20T19:28:30Z")
I think its just inflated prices from all that route extension. You can see clear line where people jump thru in CCP report. Also the shortest route from null south is to Amarr hub, so the war may fuel the market a little bit. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/75 "2020-11-21T01:26:07Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > Dodixie. unrelated ![back to dodix](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/7/b79b6391290d47416147368be00ac43d15b5cb23.png) ---
**Author:** ![Pertti\_Perusheppu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pertti_perusheppu/32/244021_2.png) [@Pertti\_Perusheppu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pertti_Perusheppu)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/76 "2020-12-20T11:37:38Z")
Just a quick update. Looks like the Amarr boom is over or at least has paused for the moment. November’s trade value in Domain was 55.46T, which is about 3.5% decline from October. However, trade value in the Forge also declined to 439.5T, which is 3.6%, almost the same decline as in Domain. It remains to be seen if trade in Domain has saturated to the value in the new normal, or if we will still see significant changes. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/77 "2020-12-20T14:38:58Z")
Traffic through Devoid and Derelik still feels higher than last year or any year before it, but thats not indicative of actual trade ofc. ---
**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/78 "2020-12-20T15:48:27Z")
Well, laziness is still not enough initiative for trade. Amarr benefits from people that don’t want to spent 30 minutes traveling from jita. But we still don’t have region specific resources so expect travel distance there is zero reasons to have multiple trading hubs. Also, I see that many modules have lower price in Amarr than Jita. I don’t know the reason but from my simple research there is not enough margin to start arbitrage trading from Amarr. Production in Domain is also not rising. Net imports and exports for November are almost exact. If I understand it correctly. It shows that there is not much inter-regional trade happening in Amarr. I’m not marketer by any means. I just start to learn and try to analyze markets for trade opportunities. But for me Amarr is nothing more than unique location for people looking for something else than Jita. To break with one central hub we need something more than tedious travel. We need unique products per area of space. ---
**Author:** ![Pertti\_Perusheppu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pertti_perusheppu/32/244021_2.png) [@Pertti\_Perusheppu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pertti_Perusheppu)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/79 "2021-02-18T08:57:50Z")
Looks like the values for January were 56.2T for Domain and 467T for The Forge. I guess we have found the new normal after the shock induced by fall of Niarja. At the end, Amarr got a nice boost, but as expected, Jita’s dominance isn’t threatened. ---
**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236/80 "2021-02-18T21:31:29Z")
> [@Pertti\_Perusheppu](#): > > At the end, Amarr got a nice boost, but as expected, Jita’s dominance isn’t threatened. Amarr trade hub is fine and Jita is as busy as ever. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rumours-of-amarrs-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/275236.md?page=5)