# Running for CSM next year: **URL:** \ **Category:** CSM Campaigns\ **Created:** [September 21, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072 "2018-09-21T10:35:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/340 "2018-09-24T17:07:35Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Talk to the guys who _don’t_ run after 1-2 terms, see if they tell you it’s a vacation, man. If CSM Summits become online events, that problem goes away. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/341 "2018-09-24T17:09:29Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > A lot will depend on how much we get accomplished this year, as well as the potential for RL political stuff in 2019. I’ll let everybody know when I’ve made up my mind Now you are campaigning in my campaign thread. Yet another ethical breach. ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/342 "2018-09-24T17:11:52Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > If CSM Summits become online events, that problem goes away. It won’t become _online events_, because as mentioned by people, talking through a screen and talking to a face is completely different… Just like you’d probably never talk ■■■■ to anyone if they were in your face. (Like most of ag on the forums) ---
**Author:** ![Choking\_Coyote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/choking_coyote/32/83337_2.png) [@Choking\_Coyote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Choking_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/343 "2018-09-24T17:12:06Z")
He was responding to someone else’s question. That’s hardly called campaigning. ---
**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/344 "2018-09-24T17:14:46Z")
Compile? Who and where are your supporters? Why would any of your supporters need you to compile a likely cherry-picked list of posts that you believe supports your position? Are they not capable of following this thread? ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/345 "2018-09-24T17:16:05Z")
You are making claims that are simply not true. As for “stop” - this is a public forum. It’s clear that players were fine with my advertising, as they elected me. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/346 "2018-09-24T17:16:28Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Now you are campaigning in my campaign thread. > > Yet another ethical breach. “I haven’t made up my mind” =/= campaigning. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/347 "2018-09-24T17:22:22Z")
‘CSM summits are a vacation! Moving them online to be just like the other 50 weeks the CSM is in session will fix that!’ ‘They’re not a vacation, dude, they’re a pain in the rear for the people who have to go.’ ‘CSM summits are a pain in the butt! Moving them online to be just like the other 50 weeks the CSM is in session will fix that!’ Self-contradictory much? Let me be clear here: I’m not saying ‘don’t run’. I want you to run. I want as many people as possible to be engaged and invested in the process, to have an interest and to work to advance that interest. That’s how the system is designed to function. I just want you to run _competently_. If you get past the ‘CCP says you can run’ stage (and you may not, because abolishing the CSM isn’t an issue the CSM has any input into, and that’s 90% of your platform here), then the scrutiny I, Brisc, and others have been subjecting you to here is _nothing_ compared to what happens when the people who are actively engaged every year take notice of you. Welcome to politics. Ask Creecher if anyone wears gloves when the punches start flying. ---
**Author:** ![Choking\_Coyote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/choking_coyote/32/83337_2.png) [@Choking\_Coyote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Choking_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/348 "2018-09-24T17:23:00Z")
> [@Mintoko](#): > > Are they not capable of following this thread? Nope because they are all locked up inside a psychiatric hospital. @Salvos_Rhoska was too but unfortuantely for us he got out. They are currently printing his picture on milk cartons with a number you can call if you’ve spotted him in the wild. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/349 "2018-09-24T17:28:19Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > ethical breach Is that an actual breach though? ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/350 "2018-09-24T17:31:30Z")
Less of an ethical breach than posting people’s faces because you disagree with them ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/351 "2018-09-24T17:32:19Z")
I try to dispose of the whole body usually but occassionally I cant help it. Besides its just a stamp. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/352 "2018-09-24T17:37:59Z")
Ive dealt with trolls for years, here and elsewhere. 3 sitting CSM starting trolling here, I did not expect. That was surprising, but I should have seen it coming, as my platform undermines them and is to reach those/represent those dissatisfied with the CSM program whom have been ignoring them for years on end. Now they will have a voice and representative, in me. If I can mobilize them to vote for me, to change CSM system, or disband it if neccessary, I will get CSM seat with the most votes of any CSM, ever, easily. Thats how bad CSM reputation has got with the playerbase at large. ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/353 "2018-09-24T17:43:44Z")
Asking questions and disagreeing with the stuff you say doesn’t make anyone a troll Refusing to answer those questions, deflecting, attacking people because of them not agreeing tho, that’s not acceptable for someone wanting to join the CSM @Salvos_Rhoska Maybe you should hire a spokesperson to verify everything you want to send on here _cough_ ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/354 "2018-09-24T17:46:29Z")
> [@Annah\_Tsero](#): > > Refusing to answer those questions, deflecting, attacking people because of them not agreeing tho, that’s not acceptable for someone wanting to join the CSM I answer questions. If you dont like the answers, thats your problem. Nor will you ever vote for me. Your entire post history is just trolling me. ---
**Author:** ![Maddy\_Zabbara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maddy_zabbara/32/277139_2.png) [@Maddy\_Zabbara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maddy_Zabbara)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/355 "2018-09-24T17:47:50Z")
Most CSM representatives reflect large blocks of players or multiple blocks of player. This is how they were able to attain enough votes to be elected to the CSM. Do you believe there is enough voting players who support the elimination/reduction/drastic change of the CSM that you are a proponent of? And if so, where do you get these numbers from? I previously linked a very educational YouTube video and if you have watched it I will ask again this way; Who are your proposed “Keys to Power”? ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/356 "2018-09-24T17:49:48Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Your entire post history is just trolling me. And yours is you trolling and ignoring people on here You might have 7k+ posts, but when 90% of them are of no value whatsoever, it shows a ton about your M-O ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/357 "2018-09-24T17:50:56Z")
> [@Maddy\_Zabbara](#): > > Do you believe there is enough voting players who support the elimination/reduction/drastic change of the CSM that you are a proponent of? I do believe so. But reaching them will be hard, as will convincing them that I am finally the candidate they can vote for to represent their dissatisfaction. This made even harder by the fact I will be, and already am, trolled/attacked from existing vested interest CSMs and their supporters. I will try. Im confident the voters are out there as a majority, atleast sufficient to get me elected to do this, but that is a struggle to reach them, and the hardest part comes only after that, to change CSM or to disband it. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/359 "2018-09-24T18:01:41Z")
> [@Choking\_Coyote](#): > > I’m pretty certain CCP has been so cleaver to include a clause in the CSM white paper that prevents people with an IQ smaller than the average persons shoe size from taking a seat on the CSM councel. No, that is not in the White Paper. Nor is my IQ less than my shoe size. And its “council”, not councel. And if your post above isnt trolling… ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/360 "2018-09-24T18:02:55Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > that is not in the White Paper. Have you seen the actual CSM contract? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072.md?page=17)