# Running for CSM next year: **URL:** \ **Category:** CSM Campaigns\ **Created:** [September 21, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072 "2018-09-21T10:35:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/435 "2018-09-24T20:41:59Z")
Questioning an openly hostile candidate, that has apparently mastered the arts of avoiding the question and casting baseless aspersions on the character of others, is not trolling. Avoiding the question and casting baseless aspersions on the character of others on the other hand… ---
**Author:** ![Erroch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erroch/32/16790_2.png) [@Erroch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erroch)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/436 "2018-09-24T20:42:23Z")
You’re allowed to believe what you want. You’re also allowed to be wrong. Though I’ll will pass it on to the rest. I’m rather flattered you think our afternoon of goofing off and coming up with silly campaign positions for people is too good to be ‘donated’. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/437 "2018-09-24T20:42:24Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > in fact most of the bad behaviour I see is you lobbing insults Show me where I have insulted anyone in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/438 "2018-09-24T20:43:08Z")
You’ve called about 98% of us trolls for a start. ---
**Author:** ![Maddy\_Zabbara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maddy_zabbara/32/277139_2.png) [@Maddy\_Zabbara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maddy_Zabbara)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/439 "2018-09-24T20:44:23Z")
@Salvos_Rhoska I am asking honest questions mate. Can you “stop feeding the trolls” and answer them? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/440 "2018-09-24T20:46:49Z")
> [@Erroch](#): > > ‘donated’. You nonetheless preconstructed the site, and then donated it to him. Who did the content specific to his profile and “3 Part Plan”? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/441 "2018-09-24T20:49:12Z")
> [@Maddy\_Zabbara](#): > > @Salvos_Rhoska > I am asking honest questions mate. Can you “stop feeding the trolls” and answer them? Sorry. This thread is moving very fast, and trolled hard. Gimme a minute and Ill scroll up to your questions and answer them if they are honest/reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![Dunk\_Dinkle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dunk_dinkle/32/319804_2.png) [@Dunk\_Dinkle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dunk_Dinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/442 "2018-09-24T20:52:01Z")
Here are some quotable things I have said. Use as you see fit. “Hardeners on, broadcast for reps, broadcast or you will die.” “All caps, boost capacitor now!” “Don’t broadcast for bomb damage you knuckleheads!” “DPS comms is the worst.” “This is why shield reps are better than armor.” “Ice cubes in whiskey is the best.” “Time in red cycle in fleet chat please.” “Wear socks.” ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/443 "2018-09-24T20:55:09Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Why are 3 CSMs asking me questions? I’m a voter. ---
**Author:** ![Erroch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erroch/32/16790_2.png) [@Erroch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erroch)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/444 "2018-09-24T20:57:00Z")
The great thing about a CMS site is when someone starts looking to put decent content up you hand them an account and say “go to it”. That part is all Brisc. Our (STK’s) stuff was all otters, memes, and jokes not fit for human consumption. Don’t get me wrong, we’ve got Brisc’s back if he needs us. He’s the one with all the campaign experience though. Edit: He’s also the only one of us insane enough to put in all the real effort / work. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/445 "2018-09-24T20:57:31Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Well, for the last 30h, ‘3 CSMs’ haven’t been. Just Brisc. And Judge’s last post wasn’t asking any questions. Why are you misrepresenting Brisc as 3 people? To be fair, I’m big enough to be about three Jin’taans. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/447 "2018-09-24T20:59:38Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Show me where I have insulted anyone in this thread. You’ve accused me of being incompetent. You’ve accused me of lying. You’ve accused me of bribery. You’ve accused me of unethical behavior. You have called me a troll. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/448 "2018-09-24T21:00:29Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Who did the content specific to his profile and “3 Part Plan”? Me. I’ve got the draft documents to prove it. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/449 "2018-09-24T21:00:33Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > To be fair, I’m big enough to be about three Jin’taans. To be fair, so are most pet hamsters. Dude’s _tiny_. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/450 "2018-09-24T21:02:09Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Dude’s _tiny_ On a scale of 1 to CCP Guard, how tiny is he? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/451 "2018-09-24T21:03:47Z")
> [@Maddy\_Zabbara](#): > > Assuming you are effective in eliminating the CSM, what system should be used to replace it? I hope it doesnt have to be disbandment, but judging by 3 CSM trolling a candidate here, I think it may have to be. “Replacing” CSM is not an option thereafter. But to fulfill the player/CCP feedback system, focus groups are a well tested and proven option. > [@Maddy\_Zabbara](#): > > Do any other gaming companies out there have a replacement as an example? Focus groups are the industry standard, afaik. That and more player/staff interaction via forums. > [@Maddy\_Zabbara](#): > > How do you expect to mobilize the “Silent Majority” of eve Players in order to get yourself elected? I have several ideas atm, but I wont reveal them early so as to not provide trolls/CSM benefciaries advance notice. > [@Maddy\_Zabbara](#): > > Are you aware of how the STV system works and what it would take to be elected? ( STV does not account for non-voters, whom do so because they think/feel nobody represents them on the ballot to change the system. No election system does. My aim is to provide those with a candidate to vote for, whom will work to change and if necessary disband CSM. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/452 "2018-09-24T21:04:21Z")
Jin might be taller… maybe… but Guard’s a _rock_, I mean, dude was a martial arts champion in the UK. Jin… I think he masses about as much as one of Guard’s arms (but he’s been working out). ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/453 "2018-09-24T21:06:16Z")
Lol. Stature is what I meant, I know that CCP Guard is quite the martial arts fan and built like a small brick shithouse. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/454 "2018-09-24T21:06:59Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > On a scale of 1 to CCP Guard, how tiny is he? He makes Guard look substantial. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/455 "2018-09-24T21:07:49Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > Show me where I have insulted anyone in this thread. > > You’ve accused me of being incompetent. > > You’ve accused me of lying. > > You’ve accused me of bribery. > > You’ve accused me of unethical behavior. > > You have called me a troll. I asked where. Its in the quote. Show the quotes to corroborate your claims. You are a trained “veteran” lawyer by your own claim. Surely you understand to do, and can, do that. The bottom two are true as accusations I have made, and they are both demonstrable, nor are they “insults”. You may be a voter in the next elections, but at this moment you are a CSM, with all that entails. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072.md?page=21)