# Running for CSM next year: **URL:** \ **Category:** CSM Campaigns\ **Created:** [September 21, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072 "2018-09-21T10:35:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Rhivre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhivre/32/358488_2.png) [@Rhivre](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhivre)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/602 "2018-09-25T04:19:02Z")
How will you achieve disbanding of the CSM? The best way to achieve that is to become a member of CCP, preferably someone in management ---
**Author:** ![Wibla](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wibla/32/462773_2.png) [@Wibla](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wibla)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/605 "2018-09-25T08:18:07Z")
> [@Rhivre](#): > > How will you achieve disbanding of the CSM? > > The best way to achieve that is to become a member of CCP, preferably someone in management One would think that even CCP has some standards. ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/606 "2018-09-25T08:31:13Z")
> [@Rhivre](#): > > How will you achieve disbanding of the CSM? > > The best way to achieve that is to become a member of CCP, preferably someone in management He doesn’t have to actually disband the CSM directly, because of course, he can’t do that. Even 10 Salvoses elected couldn’t do that. He is just running as the “reform CSM” protest vote candidate as Falcon suggested he does. If he gets elected, that would be a strong signal that there is broad unhappiness in the player-base over how the CSM is formed or runs, so broad it was able to unite all the non-nullsec groups that have nothing in common behind a single issue. I don’t think it has a chance of working, but if there really is that much anti-CSM angst he might make it. After all, [Xenuria ran](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/message/6231016/) on a “reform CSM” platform and got elected, even if he failed to being any meaningful attention to the issue as far as I could tell. Salvos seems to be running on a harder version of that platform. Will it change anything? I kinda doubt it. But if Salvos runs on a pure anti-CSM platform that will be something people can use to convince CCP that something needs to change, or a tool to whip up a crowd. I don’t see anything wrong with that, and in fact such a tactic probably is the only way for non-blocs to get their voices heard - to unite behind a single issue that transcends their in game activities. That said, I don’t think it will work. Those that pay attention will still choose their niche candidate over Salvos, and most who have given up on the CSM just won’t vote at all. Still, the length of this thread says either this issue has legs, or Salvos is a great showman/attention whore as even most of the legitimate CSM candidate threads from last year didn’t make it to 600+ posts. ---
**Author:** ![Wibla](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wibla/32/462773_2.png) [@Wibla](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wibla)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/607 "2018-09-25T08:44:07Z")
> [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > I don’t think it has a chance of working, but if there really is that much anti-CSM angst he might make it. After all, [Xenuria ran](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/message/6231016/) on a “reform CSM” platform and got elected, even if he failed to being any meaningful attention to the issue as far as I could tell. Salvos seems to be running on a harder version of that platform. The Imperium had Xenuria on their ballot. His public platform was mostly irrelevant (iirc) for him getting elected. ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/608 "2018-09-25T08:49:15Z")
Wait 1 being smaller or larger? ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/609 "2018-09-25T08:55:57Z")
> [@Wibla](#): > > The Imperium had Xenuria on their ballot. His public platform was mostly irrelevant (iirc) for him getting elected. Perhaps, but he was what third? on that Imperium ballot and as we know not that many votes trickle down. He just made the 14-person cutoff so likely he wouldn’t have made it without that, but I know people who voted for him out of protest. I think I might even have had, although it was the last spot on my ballot. Regardless, a protest vote is perfectly legitimate. I’m not sure Salvos would be my first choice as a pure, baggage-free protest candidate, but if he wants to run as that, why not? People will vote for him or not and all it will say is how popular Salvos and his ideas are and something about his in game support, just like it does for every candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/611 "2018-09-25T12:01:50Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I’m pretty sure Xenuria was on the CFC vote list He was And the CSM is also still there 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Erroch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erroch/32/16790_2.png) [@Erroch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erroch)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/612 "2018-09-25T12:07:07Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Most of it is because when you ask Salvos a question it takes about 15 responses before you get anything resembling an answer. It’s just the way he is on the forum, he posts loads but says little. He also answers anyone that provides information he doesn’t like by calling them liars. I’m up to twice now, or maybe thrice? One of them was pretty vague so I’m not counting it. Post count doesn’t equal popularity. It is more an indication of controversiality. ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/613 "2018-09-25T12:14:26Z")
> [@Erroch](#): > > Post count doesn’t equal popularity. It is more an indication of controversiality. But it does!!!111 He’s the most known shitposter on the forums, he’s even known on reddit for it 😂 It’s not a reputation that normal prole would want, but he has it. And he’s stuck with it… digging the hole ever deeper each time he posts ---
**Author:** ![Erroch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erroch/32/16790_2.png) [@Erroch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erroch)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/614 "2018-09-25T12:45:59Z")
> [@Annah\_Tsero](#): > > But it does!!!111 I stand corrected. I guess I should rephrase that post count doesn’t equate to popularity of the platform? ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/615 "2018-09-25T12:49:17Z")
You know, he has 7700+ posts But that doesn’t include the thousands of edits he made over time 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Choking\_Coyote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/choking_coyote/32/83337_2.png) [@Choking\_Coyote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Choking_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/616 "2018-09-25T13:08:07Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > Believe me, you dont want **ME** interfering in your re-election thread with my supporters, as others have done here in mine. > > Actually, he probably does. Since you would absolutely get yourself banned for trashing his thread, while he’s been perfectly reasonable here. If anything it would do us all a favour. @Salvos_Rhoska: Also, said trashing would probably also get him a lot of sympathy votes he would otherwise not get. ---
**Author:** ![Choking\_Coyote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/choking_coyote/32/83337_2.png) [@Choking\_Coyote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Choking_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/617 "2018-09-25T13:12:22Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Most of it is because when you ask Salvos a question it takes about 15 responses before you get anything resembling an answer. It’s just the way he is on the forum, he posts loads but says little. Many European countries would call that _a politician_. ---
**Author:** ![Maddy\_Zabbara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maddy_zabbara/32/277139_2.png) [@Maddy\_Zabbara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maddy_Zabbara)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/618 "2018-09-25T13:45:32Z")
Every country would call that a politician… ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/620 "2018-09-25T14:00:16Z")
lol I’m so tempted to post the name of the obvious exception. /exercises restraint. ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/621 "2018-09-25T14:20:10Z")
You don’t think he plays eve forums online do you??? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/622 "2018-09-25T14:22:29Z")
Probably too busy with Twatter. ---
**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/624 "2018-09-25T15:20:30Z")
He who you won’t name is not a politician. That’s why he doesn’t act like one. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/625 "2018-09-25T16:57:03Z")
> [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > Perhaps, but he was what third? on that Imperium ballot and as we know not that many votes trickle down. > > He just made the 14-person cutoff so likely he wouldn’t have made it without that, but I know people who voted for him out of protest. I think I might even have had, although it was the last spot on my ballot. Xenuria, in fact, was _our_ protest candidate. Much like his use in nullsec, where he’s sent into enemy staging systems to sit cloaked and just… _chat_… with people, we weaponized him and sent him to Iceland. However, Xenuria proved to actually be a fairly effective CSM, by the accounts of those who were on the CSM with him. He always came prepared, had a significant body of research, cited his sources, and backed up his assertions with them. While he didn’t have any ‘big ticket’ platform positions of his own, that was mostly because he’s interested in processes. Also, high-resolution textures for shoes. No, really, I dunno what’s up with that, but he really is. Really nice guy once you know how to deal with him, though. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/626 "2018-09-26T06:32:00Z")
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