# Running for CSM next year: **URL:** \ **Category:** CSM Campaigns\ **Created:** [September 21, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072 "2018-09-21T10:35:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/96 "2018-09-22T22:04:52Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > I will not accept free travel/accomodation to Fanfest. Good news. We haven’t had this in years. (We talked about it with CCP, and decided that bringing more members to the summits was more useful than brining them to fanfest. Especially as they’d be lame ducks at that point.) ---
**Author:** ![Makavi\_Madeveda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makavi_madeveda/32/495789_2.png) [@Makavi\_Madeveda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makavi_Madeveda)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/97 "2018-09-22T22:08:07Z")
Explain why you or the other CSM need to be brought anywhere. 21st century, bub. Face to face communication is no longer required. ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/98 "2018-09-22T22:09:28Z")
> [@Makavi\_Madeveda](#): > > Go take a bath with a toaster. inb4 ban 😂 _ **nothing of value was lost** _ ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/99 "2018-09-22T22:11:59Z")
> [@Makavi\_Madeveda](#): > > Explain why you or the other CSM need to be brought anywhere. 21st century, bub. Face to face communication is no longer required. Looks like you never had a real job where you work together with other people. ---
**Author:** ![Makavi\_Madeveda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makavi_madeveda/32/495789_2.png) [@Makavi\_Madeveda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makavi_Madeveda)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/100 "2018-09-22T22:16:17Z")
CSM isn’t a job, last I checked. There is no need to physically travel to spew words forth, as can be seen right here in this simple communication. ---
**Author:** ![Makavi\_Madeveda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makavi_madeveda/32/495789_2.png) [@Makavi\_Madeveda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makavi_Madeveda)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/101 "2018-09-22T22:17:30Z")
Never told him to plug it in first. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/103 "2018-09-22T22:25:16Z")
Face to face communication is _far_ better than over the internet. Even video chat. Especially when you have a large number of people dialling in. I’ve attended the summit virtually, and in person, and in person works far better. You get more done. Of course, I suspect you won’t believe me. But try having a meeting with 20 odd people, with the majority of them not in the same room. It doesn’t work well. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/104 "2018-09-22T22:27:48Z")
Also I bet a lot of ideas get exchanged after the official meetings over a beer. Such things are often underrated. Humans are a social species. Now try that over Skype… ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/105 "2018-09-22T22:39:20Z")
I’d suggest, Salvos, that you let people know the kinds of thing you believe, other than for the disbandment and/or restriction of perks (I’m interested to know what perks you think there are) for the CSM. Because you’ve mentioned what would take maybe 30 minutes to explain, maybe another 30 minutes to argue about. Considering that CCP consider the CSM to be useful enough to continue to pay for, I suspect you won’t get a lot of traction. Hence, you really should give people some kind of idea what else they’re voting for. For the other 99.5% of the time you’d be on the CSM, fulfilling the duties (as you said you would). To fail to ensure that voters know where you stand, suggests you either don’t care about _anything_ else (which would make you a poor CSM) or you think your beliefs would put people off voting for you (which would make you a poor CSM. As you wouldn’t be representing the people who voted for you, except in a very very narrow aspect) ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/106 "2018-09-23T00:38:48Z")
What Steve said. I can guarantee you that anybody with a platform of “disband the CSM” is not going to be qualified to run. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/107 "2018-09-23T00:49:06Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Nana’s poll shows 64% of 141 respondents vote “No” on the CSM program as it exists currently. I just saw this. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Choking\_Coyote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/choking_coyote/32/83337_2.png) [@Choking\_Coyote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Choking_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/108 "2018-09-23T01:41:41Z")
If CCP were to entertain the idea of substituting your Omega account for a subscribtion with a clinical psychologist, I might be tempted to vote for you as a CSM candidate. No promises made though. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/109 "2018-09-23T06:43:32Z")
I read your candidate profile: "He is, at heart, just the average pilot here in New Eden - one of the nameless, faceless masses of men and women who got addicted to this bloody game and can’t quit it. If elected to CSM, that’s who he’ll be representing - you. " PS: You have failed to deliver on asset safety, wardecs, no local and countless of the other “points in your plan”. PPS: How much money did you spend on your campaign website? * * * Im sure I can come up with a quaint paragraph or two describing myself IRL and in EVE, general views on EVE, as well as my intent to reduce political influence in CSM, remove CSM perks and work to disband it if that is what the playerbase wants. Thanks for the unsolicited advice you two, but let me worry about how to get elected. If I dont get elected, I wouldnt be the first candidate not to be. * * * The amount of outright trolling in this thread is astounding. Reveals some posters for whom they are. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/111 "2018-09-23T08:24:47Z")
I’m still waiting for you to say what perks you believe the csm get. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/112 "2018-09-23T08:27:54Z")
> [@Steve\_Ronuken](#): > > I’m still waiting for you to say what perks you believe the csm get. You are a 5 (or is it 6 now) time CSM. You tell me what expenses/services you get paid by CCP? In that entire time, how much value has CCP paid in total to cover your expenses in flights/accomodation/Omega/etc? Please include the remainder of your term in the figure. ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/113 "2018-09-23T08:31:07Z")
Pathetic and annoying those are the 2 things that define you as a EVE player.I’d rather vote someone’s gila bot for CSM than you ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/114 "2018-09-23T08:46:43Z")
Nie try, but I’m asking _you_. After all, you’ve already shown you believed something which was untrue. (About fanfest being paid for.) Just seeing what else there might be. I’m not doing your homework for you ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/115 "2018-09-23T08:54:19Z")
> [@Dread\_Saboteur](#): > > Pathetic and annoying those are the 2 things that define you as a EVE player.I’d rather vote someone’s gila bot for CSM than you Haters gonna hate. Trolls gonna troll. Vote for a gila bot instead then, like you usually do. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/116 "2018-09-23T08:55:07Z")
> [@Steve\_Ronuken](#): > > Nie try, but I’m asking _you_ . And I’m asking **YOU** , as a **5-6 time and currently serving CSM,** how much cost has CCP “comped” for you in total in that time, and for what, and for the remainder of your term? Is it more or less than $5,000? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/117 "2018-09-23T08:58:22Z")
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