# Running for CSM next year:

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072>\
**Category:** CSM Campaigns\
**Created:** [September 21, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072 "2018-09-21T10:35:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1138 "2018-09-26T18:38:44Z")

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Again, selective quoting, he specifically asked for a YES or NO answer.

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**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1139 "2018-09-26T18:39:18Z")

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> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
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> Yes or no:
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> Do you or do you not have a passport?

:congaparrot::congaparrot::congaparrot::congaparrot::congaparrot::congaparrot::congaparrot::congaparrot:

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1140 "2018-09-26T18:39:48Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Again, selective quoting, he specifically asked for a YES or NO answer.

> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
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> Do you or do you not have a passport?

This is a real quote, not selective.  
I dont see any specific request for yes or no there.  
Just if I have a passport, or not.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1141 "2018-09-26T18:40:19Z")

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It’s right above the question you continually quote.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1142 "2018-09-26T18:40:25Z")

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poor Brisc, everytime he gets pinged it’s because Salvos is apparently unable to understand or answer a simple question in the format specified.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1143 "2018-09-26T18:41:37Z")

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You should learn to read then, it’s as clear as the nose on your face that he specifically asked for a yes or no answer in the original post that you’re selectively quoting.

For clarity this is the relevant part of the post you’re misrepresenting via selective quoting; I have emphasised the bit you keep omitting.

> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
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> **_Yes or no:_**
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> Do you or do you not have a passport?

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1144 "2018-09-26T18:41:45Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Salvos is apparently unable to understand or answer a simple question in the format specified.

I answered the below issued simple question in the format specified:

> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
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> Do you or do you not have a passport?

I do have a passport.

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**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1145 "2018-09-26T18:42:00Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Just more proof the current CSM program does not work.

The fact that you’re not on the CSM is proof that it _does_ work.

The funny thing is that regardless of anyone’s stance on the CSM in general or any issue in particular, I’ve never seen a CSM member more engaged on the forums in discussing as broad a field of topics as @Brisc_Rubal. Every other CSM member in the history of the group has focused on broad CSM stuff or on their particular wheelhouse in particular. Brisc is the first I’ve seen make an effort on the official forums to actually understand issues. You, on the other hand, are a tool who literally REFUSES to understand, or at least acknowledge, the statements other people are making. CCP should reject your candidacy outright… and I even suspect you may already be disqualified according to the official rules.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1146 "2018-09-26T18:42:24Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> I answered the below issued simple question in the format specified:

No you did not. The format specified was either YES or NO.

It turns out that being out-pedanting\* a pedant is quite satisfying.

\*Yeah it’s not a word, but it fits.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1147 "2018-09-26T18:43:15Z")

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> [@mkint](#):
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> The fact that you’re not on the CSM is proof that it _does_ work.

This makes no sense.  
Ive never run before through to nomination as CSM.  
Nor does the CSM decide who votes for whom.

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**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1148 "2018-09-26T18:43:55Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > [@mkint](#):
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> > The fact that you’re not on the CSM is proof that it _does_ work.
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> This makes no sense.  
> Ive never run before to nomination as CSM.

And I’m fairly certain you won’t be running this next time either.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1149 "2018-09-26T18:44:19Z")

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> [@mkint](#):
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> And I’m fairly certain you won’t be running this next time either.

Its going to happen.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1150 "2018-09-26T18:45:37Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Its going to happen.

Something is, it’s unlikely to be what you think though.

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**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1151 "2018-09-26T18:46:14Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > [@mkint](#):
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> > And I’m fairly certain you won’t be running this next time either.
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> Its going to happen.

No. You’re attempting to run. But your name isn’t on the ballot. You don’t get to decide whether it ever will be. I’m 90% confident it won’t. I’d be more confident if I cba’d to look up the actual rules for disqualification.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1152 "2018-09-26T18:48:21Z")

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> [@mkint](#):
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> I’m 90% confident it won’t.

Then why are you and your ilk trolling this thread this hard that its past 1,140 posts?

Are you afraid?

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1153 "2018-09-26T18:49:04Z")

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You’re just as much a part of the 1140 posts. It takes two to tango.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1154 "2018-09-26T18:49:40Z")

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> [@Mintoko](#):
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> You’re just as much a part of the 1140 posts. It takes two to tango.

I’m somewhat obligated to answer.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1155 "2018-09-26T18:49:59Z")

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So are we. There was a point in which it could have stopped, but you had to end a post with a jab. It’s like you can’t simply have the last post, you have to make a statement that provokes a response. I think it’s the intention of this thread, so far from the election. You like the negative attention and of course, the post count.

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**Author:** ![Mingja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingja/32/50857_2.png) [@Mingja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingja)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1156 "2018-09-26T18:50:07Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> I’m somewhat obligated to answer.

maybe answer briscs question then 😃

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**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1157 "2018-09-26T18:51:21Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > [@mkint](#):
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> > I’m 90% confident it won’t.
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> Then why are you and your ilk trolling this thread this hard that its past 1,1400 posts?
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> Are you afraid?

Afraid isn’t the right word. Some of us experience more emotions and motivations than anger and fear. Some of them are even delightful. You should try some of them out.

Really, what I’m hoping is that CCP will look at this thread, and if there isn’t already a rule disqualifying you from candidacy, that they’ll invent one special just for you. Whatever rule it is can only increase the quality of the candidates afterwards.

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