# Running for CSM next year:

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072>\
**Category:** CSM Campaigns\
**Created:** [September 21, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072 "2018-09-21T10:35:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1158 "2018-09-26T18:51:21Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> I’m somewhat obligated to answer.

Well you’ve failed on that part multiple times, because you’ve refused to answer many questions; because you deem them to be trolls, a word you apparently don’t know the meaning of.

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**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1159 "2018-09-26T18:52:51Z")

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I would have to add Jin’taan to that select group with his roundtable get togethers last year.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1160 "2018-09-26T18:54:14Z")

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Ill have to re-adjust my estimate of posts/views in this thread till actual nomination period dramatically.

I think its safe to say no CSM candidacy thread, ever, by anyone, has been trolled this hard, let alone by seated CSM.

Clearly, you are afraid that Ill pull it off, and trying to stop me early on before I gain momentum with the playerbase that is dissatisfied with the CSM program.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1161 "2018-09-26T18:55:00Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Are you afraid?

You mistake amusement for fear.

Shall we add humour to the evergrowing list of things that you don’t understand?

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**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1162 "2018-09-26T18:55:18Z")

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He was good and roundtables are good, but as far as open forums discussion, I think Brisc has him beat.

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**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1163 "2018-09-26T18:55:18Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> I’m somewhat obligated to answer.

Yet you still haven’t

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> Have you ever been permanently banned from a forum.  
> 1a. if so which forums and why?

> [@Maddy\_Zabbara](#):
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> How do you feel about the changes to Titans that was announced today? Do you think this is a good balance to make Titans more vulnerable after using their DD, and eliminating their AoE on death.

> [@Annah\_Tsero](#):
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> what’s your opinion about players judging the people behind\* the screen for their body shape?

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1164 "2018-09-26T18:55:34Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> You mistake amusement for fear.

I dont think so.

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**Author:** ![Mingja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingja/32/50857_2.png) [@Mingja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingja)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1165 "2018-09-26T18:55:36Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> I think its safe to say no CSM candidacy thread, ever, by anyone, has been trolled this hard, let alone by seated CSM.

Well, no candidacy thread has been trolled by the candidate himself before, so I think your statement is true. :o

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1166 "2018-09-26T18:55:50Z")

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We know so.

Do you honestly think that people aren’t laughing at you?

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1167 "2018-09-26T18:56:01Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Looks like Ive butthurt a CSM that is now trolling my campaign thread for CSM.
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> Just more proof the current CSM program does not work

Deflection from your own repeated failures to tell the truth and be responsive to simple questions from the voters.

EVE players deserve better from candidates for the CSM. They have poured hours of time and tens of dollars into his game - the least you can do is take their concerns seriously.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1168 "2018-09-26T18:56:24Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> We know so.

Who is “we”?

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1169 "2018-09-26T18:57:08Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Who is “we”?

Pretty much everyone in the thread that isn’t you.

We don’t fear you, we find you to be amusing in a pitiful kind of way.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1170 "2018-09-26T18:57:35Z")

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> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
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> the least you can do is take their concerns seriously.

I take their concerns very seriously.  
You arent.

Thats why Im running as a candidate for those whom no longer believe in the CSM program.

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**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1171 "2018-09-26T18:58:50Z")

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We are the Deep (safe) State of EVE…

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**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1172 "2018-09-26T19:01:09Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> I think its safe to say no CSM candidacy thread, ever, by anyone, has been trolled this hard, let alone by seated CSM.

There you go again confusing terms. This time it’s “most” “first” and “worst.” I’m not going to say you’re the worst potential candidate to have ever run, just the worst forums poster to have ever attempted to run.

Sidebar: I was reading a thing about how video games affect discourse. The idea was that people are now looking to “win” conversations in a way they haven’t before. They are looking for that one button or cheat code they can punch in to make their opponent “go away.” We don’t need people to “win” conversations. We need people who can solve problems. I’d be amazed if there is a single person who can read even a tenth of this thread and somehow walk away from it thinking Salvos is a problem solver.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1173 "2018-09-26T19:02:35Z")

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> [@mkint](#):
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> There you go again confusing terms.

Do you have something you want to ask me, or are you here just trolling.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1174 "2018-09-26T19:03:21Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Do you have something you want to ask me, or are you here just trolling.

I do. I’ve asked it before and you didn’t answer.

What is a troll and what is trolling?

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1175 "2018-09-26T19:04:51Z")

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There’s ‘taking lemons and making lemonade’ and then there’s denial.

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**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1176 "2018-09-26T19:05:05Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > [@mkint](#):
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> > There you go again confusing terms.
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> Do you have something you want to ask me, or are you here just trolling.

Trolling is stirring up trouble for the sake of stirring up trouble. No, I’m not trolling. I have a very specific goal in mind. To prove that you are too toxic to be allowed to run for CSM. Your poison is best contained to small quarantined spaces.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1177 "2018-09-26T19:05:34Z")

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> [@Mintoko](#):
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> There’s ‘taking lemons and making lemonade’ and then there’s denial.

Which is not a river in Eygpt

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