# Running for CSM next year: **URL:** \ **Category:** CSM Campaigns\ **Created:** [September 21, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072 "2018-09-21T10:35:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 59
**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1238 "2018-09-26T19:36:22Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Ask Salvos where he had his humorectomy, you might even get a referral discount. lol, I read that as “rectal” ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1239 "2018-09-26T19:36:51Z")
I still think this campaign needs some Salvos merchandise. I really want a Salvos cap. ---
**Author:** ![Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bjorn_tyrson/32/371958_2.png) [@Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bjorn_Tyrson)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1240 "2018-09-26T19:36:53Z")
You have so far showed an inability or unwillingness to answer a simple yes or no question in the required format. If you are unable to answer such a question how are your constituents supposed to have any confidence in your ability to represent their needs to ccp? ---
**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1241 "2018-09-26T19:37:04Z")
I’m not sure he needed one. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1242 "2018-09-26T19:37:19Z")
Nah that would be a cranial-rectal inversion; it takes a truly dedicated prick to get one of those. ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1243 "2018-09-26T19:38:17Z")
Did he ever even answer Brisc’s question? ---
**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1244 "2018-09-26T19:38:45Z")
Not in a format that every highschooler understands, which is what I thought he was before he posted a video. Age-gauging is difficult with Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1245 "2018-09-26T19:38:47Z")
Not in the specified format. ---
**Author:** ![Mingja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingja/32/50857_2.png) [@Mingja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingja)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1246 "2018-09-26T19:41:29Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > I still think this campaign needs some Salvos merchandise. I really want a Salvos cap. The slogan will be: “Yes or no? I don’t know!” ? ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1247 "2018-09-26T19:44:00Z")
> [@Mingja](#): > > “Yes or no? I don’t know!” I almost choked on that 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Maddy\_Zabbara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maddy_zabbara/32/277139_2.png) [@Maddy\_Zabbara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maddy_Zabbara)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1248 "2018-09-26T19:44:45Z")
For the love of Bob… @Salvos_Rhoska You call me out on what questions you avoided, I link the questions and you avoid them, instead focus on the trolling. Bob be praised, you are such a pointless troll I can’t wait for you to ACTUALLY campaign so you will be actually trolled, because if this is any kind of hint at how you can handle yourself when in an even remotly public forum than I would not want you to represent me as a player to CCP. Because at the end of the day, regardless of what you want the CSM to be, it is a bridge between us (the players) and CCP (the company that makes Eve) The CSM is not a political entity that makes decisions or runs anything, they are a collection of voices for both us as player to give CCP feedback, and bring CCP updates and positions to us with a more player based face. “The Council of Stellar Management is a player advocacy group, consisting of 10 members democratically elected by the players to advise and assist CCP in the continuous development of EVE. The CSM brings focused, structured feedback from the community to CCP and represents its views and interests.” -CCP website- ---
**Author:** ![Eve\_Griefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eve_griefer/32/277788_2.png) [@Eve\_Griefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eve_Griefer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1249 "2018-09-26T19:49:14Z")
> [@Mintoko](#): > > This is only part of the non-voting public. Some players don’t know what the CSM is or that it even exists. Some players never visit the forum and won’t know anything about the candidates. Some, like myself, are aware that it exists and what it does, but have simply not taken the time to get involved with it. Some players, due to RL, have very little time to do anything, let alone vote. If a player never visits the forum, looks at the launcher when logging in or lives in a backwater system then I can see them not having heard of the CSM. As a hi sec player (on another character) I encountered CSM candidates visiting systems to advertise their candidacy. The most time consuming part of the whole CSM election, for the voter, is researching and choosing who to vote for. ---
**Author:** ![Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bjorn_tyrson/32/371958_2.png) [@Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bjorn_Tyrson)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1250 "2018-09-26T19:50:25Z")
I confess, I have succumbed to the bribes of humor and entertainment, salvos has successfully just bought my vote. in fact I am going to go a step further and aid his campaign. starting with t-shirts. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/6/6660113adcd9d9a1e264324b8bea86067a3ee5c8.png) ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1251 "2018-09-26T19:50:49Z")
I’ll take 5 ---
**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1252 "2018-09-26T19:51:12Z")
But, he’s against contributions… ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1253 "2018-09-26T19:51:58Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > It means Ive had a passport for as long as one needs one for travel. But that’s not what you said. You said you’ve “always” had one. Which is not true. Thus, in your own thread announcing you are planning on announcing that you’ll run for CSM, you liked to the voters. Salvos lied, the truth died. ---
**Author:** ![Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bjorn_tyrson/32/371958_2.png) [@Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bjorn_Tyrson)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1254 "2018-09-26T19:53:37Z")
you gonna be at vegas? because if there is enough interest I may just get a bunch printed to bring with. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1255 "2018-09-26T19:53:42Z")
> [@Annah\_Tsero](#): > > Did he ever even answer Brisc’s question? No, he hasn’t answered the question. It’s amazing, really. ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1256 "2018-09-26T19:54:17Z")
I wish I could have, but I got a computer instead ☹ I also don’t have a passport, so yeah 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1257 "2018-09-26T19:58:55Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Its the truth. > > And yes, that should lay to rest any concern of me not being mentally fit to run for CSM, which is not a pre-condition to running for CSM either. > > I could be batshit crazy, and still run. > Im not. > > All it is, is libel and attempt at assassination of my character You know, I dated someone for many years who had serious mental issues due to a neurochemical imbalance. When they were medicated, everything was fine. But one of the first signs that they’d been off their meds was their insistence of ‘I’m fine, I don’t need them’. It’s not an uncommon thing to encounter in people who are not fine. One of the problems with asserting that you (not you specifically, the generic ‘you’) are mentally healthy is that the tool that is being used to determine that (the mind) is precisely the thing suspected of being impaired. In other words? No. Someone insisting they are in good mental health should _never_ ‘lay to rest any concerns’ of mental unfitness. Observed behavior, not (potential) patient insistence, is a much more reliable meter. Also, if there’s no malice, only a sincere belief that the statement is true, then there is no libel. Accusations of criminal acts should be submitted to CCP along with evidence, or not made. > [@mkint](#): > > If the fact that _I_ don’t like you is all that stops you from getting elected, then your campaign is exceptionally fragile. As I said, Aryth will eat him alive. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > I ran 2.9km/12mins in my last Cooper Test during my last military induction in Jan of this year. Do you expect to need to run very far in the Icelandic conference rooms you have no intention of setting foot inside? > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > I was told CSM wasnt political. The CSM’s job isn’t political. Getting elected is _always_ political. It’s a political process. You have to get the votes, and by and large, human beings are emotional, not rational, actors. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Then get out of my CSM campaign thread, unless you want me to seriously start digging up dirt on you to reciprocate. AHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH Seriously now. What ‘dirt’ do you think you’re going to dig up on him that _real world politics_ hasn’t exposed? Being on the CSM is the dirt people will already be throwing at him in his next campaign. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > See above. Brisc didn’t out you as a smoker. YOU did that in your posted videos. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > I see right through you. > I know how you operate. If this is true, why do you persist on walking into it? I mean, you do realize you’re the one coming across as foolish here, not him, right? And that’s even _with_ him claiming to be able to run a 2.4-minute mile. Really, I’m kinda surprised he hasn’t questioned the 11 v 12 minute thing based on the relativistic time dilation effect of acceleration. > [@Wibla](#): > > ■■■■. Oh god, Wibla’s here. DOCK UP, BRISC, DOOMSDAY INCOMING… > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Wait till my constituents see this. Well, except for two minor problems. 1)You haven’t been elected yet. You don’t have constituents. 2)Your _targe audience_ are the people who, by and large, don’t get involved. The vast majority of the people who don’t vote for the CSM are people who don’t get involved in the forums, don’t engage with the community, and generally don’t care. They play on their own or with their small group, and they’re happy with that. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > How many more disorders are you going to libelously and falsely claim I have? You have a very Russian view on libel laws. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Are you mocking my campaign, as a seated CSM? Yeah, he’s allowed to mock you. Nothing in the CSM guidelines says you can’t mock people when they’re being dumb, and clearly, he thinks you’re being dumb. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > That cognitive dissonance. No, that’s disagreement. Cognitive dissonance would be if he was holding two mutually-exclusive convictions and insisting they don’t conflict. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Most likely, yes. > In huge amounts. Did you just say supporting _you_ is trolling? :facepalm: > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > For example, Ill never detach the Goon vote from the list they are provided to vote for. Now, that’s just patently false, and foolish. We have plenty of people every year who don’t vote the Coalition line ballot. We have no way of forcing them to do so, and they’re perfectly free to vote however they like. Our only position regarding conformity is that they can’t actively argue for others _not_ to vote the party line on our forums, because that’s agitating against the interests of the Coalition. There’s a term for it, but it’d get censored here because these forums are less permissive than the [headlines of Danish new services](https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/6-aarige-boern-til-laerere-fuck-dig). > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > They work as people that agree with your platform, voting for you to make it happen. Damn, you _are_ funny today. Especially since you’re looking to be a protest vote. Protest votes often don’t happen because people agree with your platform, but in opposition to all the _other_ platforms. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Almost all international corporations prefer using online consulting/communication. Almost all international corporations use online conferencing because of the reduced disruptions to the scheduling _around_ the conference. Those same international corporations prefer to use face-to-face meetings _when possible_, because the breadth and depth of communication in those meetings is greater, with better comprehension, better ability to get immediate and in-depth feedback, and do it all _faster_ than online communication allows. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > I have provided supporting evidence earlier in this thread, when I was asked the same before. You have not. You have, in fact, specifically _avoided_ providing that proof except to claim that your own assertions are proof. In fact, when direct evidence that refuted your assertions was presented, you specifically refused to address that evidence. > [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > We call those… > > …Doomchinchillas. So glad I wasn’t drinking when I read that. > [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > I still haven’t decided if I’m running again, but if I do You know it won’t take much more than 11 minutes! > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Soliciting personal data is illegal. Sooo… it’s illegal to ask someone their name when you meet them? That’d be a weird law. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > It means Ive had a passport for as long as one needs one for travel. Hi. I needed a passport as an infant in order to travel. I had one, literally within 2 weeks of birth (Born to a military family on deployment overseas, passport paperwork was in to be filed as soon as the birth date was written in by my father’s CO). Did you? **Please provide your answer in the form of a simple ‘Yes’ or ‘No’, no other answers will be considered a valid answer for this question.** [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072.md?page=58) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072.md?page=60)