# Running for CSM next year:

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072>\
**Category:** CSM Campaigns\
**Created:** [September 21, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072 "2018-09-21T10:35:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 67

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**Author:** ![Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bjorn_tyrson/32/371958_2.png) [@Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bjorn_Tyrson)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1399 "2018-09-27T20:08:55Z")

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NOTHING!!! (also I accept bribes. Just sayin)

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1400 "2018-09-27T20:09:39Z")

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I’m not sure if I can vote for someone who does not accept bribes. This feels kinda wrong

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1401 "2018-09-27T20:10:49Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> I have answered the questions I have deemed to be reasonable and ignored the rest because I dismissed them as trolling for daring to question my platform or because of their author.

FTFY.

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**Author:** ![Wander\_Prian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wander_prian/32/394208_2.png) [@Wander\_Prian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wander_Prian)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1402 "2018-09-27T20:11:41Z")

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It’s not if, it’s when. Your rule would do absolutely nothing to push forward your agenda. We all know how Eve works.

If you know the rule will be of zero use, why even suggest it?

I’d also like some proof of this corruption and political influence you are so afraid of. While having most of the CSM from null may not be the optimal choice, so far I’ve seen them tackle issues all over Eve, not just in null or for null.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1403 "2018-09-27T20:11:58Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > I have answered the questions I have deemed to be reasonable and ignored the rest because I dismissed them as trolling for daring to question my platform or because of their author.
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> FTFY.

Quote editting is a forum violation.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1404 "2018-09-27T20:13:04Z")

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Not to my knowledge, please point out the specific rule I have violated.

Also, irony.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1405 "2018-09-27T20:13:49Z")

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> [@Wander\_Prian](#):
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> Your rule would do absolutely nothing to push forward your agenda.

Then you have no reason to resist that change.

If you disagree with it, vote for someone else.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1406 "2018-09-27T20:14:07Z")

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To some it will have appeared to work and then he would be praised. It’s smoke and mirrors. I mean, look…there’s _only 1 goon_ on the CSM. It doesn’t matter that the other 6 left the alliance just before the elections.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1407 "2018-09-27T20:14:45Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Then you have no reason to resist that change.

Change for the sake of change? A waste of time.

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**Author:** ![Wander\_Prian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wander_prian/32/394208_2.png) [@Wander\_Prian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wander_Prian)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1408 "2018-09-27T20:15:08Z")

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Oh I am going to vote for someone else. It won’t stop me from asking you questions to show just how bad your ideas are though 🙂

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1409 "2018-09-27T20:15:18Z")

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> [@Mintoko](#):
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> there’s _only 1 goon_ on the CSM

There are 3 GoonWaffe/GSF members on the CSM atm.  
We dont know definitively which of the others are on the Goon payroll/influence list.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1410 "2018-09-27T20:15:52Z")

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I wasn’t referencing the current CSM. It’s an example of what would happen if you got your way.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1411 "2018-09-27T20:16:15Z")

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> [@Mintoko](#):
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> I wasn’t referencing the current CSM.

I am.

This is the situation at this time.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1412 "2018-09-27T20:16:58Z")

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Your idea won’t affect the current CSM, nor the next. What we’re talking about is the future, after CSM14.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1413 "2018-09-27T20:18:08Z")

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> [@Mintoko](#):
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> Your idea won’t affect the current CSM, nor the next. What we’re talking about is the future, after CSM14.

Correct.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1414 "2018-09-27T20:19:13Z")

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I wasn’t asking for clarification. I know we’re talking about the future. My example was _of_ that future. Your idea won’t do anything but hide the candidate’s true affiliation.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1415 "2018-09-27T20:21:08Z")

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> [@Mintoko](#):
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> I wasn’t asking for clarification. I know we’re talking about the future. My example was _of_ that future.

If CSM is not changed, that future may well have 6/10 GoonWaffe/GSF Corp/Alliance tagged seated CSM.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1416 "2018-09-27T20:22:04Z")

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The result is the same if there’s a single Goon with several others who are goons with different corp/alliance tags.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1417 "2018-09-27T20:22:23Z")

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> [@Mintoko](#):
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> The result is the same if there’s a single Goon with several others who are goons with different corp/alliance tags.

It is not the same.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1418 "2018-09-27T20:23:00Z")

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It is the same. I’m sorry that you’re incapable of seeing that. There is no purpose to this.

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