# Running for CSM next year:

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072>\
**Category:** CSM Campaigns\
**Created:** [September 21, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072 "2018-09-21T10:35:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1480 "2018-09-27T21:33:07Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Calling it an ego trip, now that would be trolling if it wasn’t quite so plausible.

Have you ever run for CSM?

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**Author:** ![Mingja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingja/32/50857_2.png) [@Mingja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingja)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1481 "2018-09-27T21:37:35Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Have you ever run for CSM?

Would that matter? As far as I am concerned, this isn’t about your candidacy anyway, since you know… you don’t do stuff regular candidates do.

Like, explaining your position. Sharing your thoughts and visions. Responding to questions. Treating questioneers seriously and with respect.

You did none of that.

Instead, I would say you are only “running” because Falcon called you out.

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1482 "2018-09-27T21:37:39Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> The less people vote, the stronger the Goon ballot gets in proportion.
> 
> If you persist in this trolling and sabotage, I will draw the conclusion you are infact working for GSF.
> 
> This is now the 7th time I am asking you to stop trolling/disrupting my campaign thread by you as a seated CSM.

This is the 7th time I am reiterating that you do not control the forums, you do not control who posts in a public thread, and you do not control me.

You can draw whatever incorrect conclusions you wish - you can even keep making things up out of whole cloth as you have been doing. That isn’t going to change any of the three things I just told you.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1483 "2018-09-27T21:38:18Z")

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Have you ever read your own posts?

Your entire forum “career” has been you consistently trying to big yourself up, and failing.

You come across as what my mum calls “The Big I Am”. Me, I think you’re an educated fool with too much time on his hands and an overly inflated opinion of himself.

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**Author:** ![Choking\_Coyote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/choking_coyote/32/83337_2.png) [@Choking\_Coyote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Choking_Coyote)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1484 "2018-09-27T21:39:08Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> They are silent because they are fed up with being trolled and misrepresented.

I thought they were silent because they are in asset safety after you blew up your own CSM campaign.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1485 "2018-09-27T21:39:13Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> You come across as what my mum calls “The Big I Am”.

Does the name Raskin mean anything to you?

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1486 "2018-09-27T21:40:45Z")

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Nope, was he like you?

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1487 "2018-09-27T21:42:40Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Nope, was he like you?

Nope.  
Daniel\_Raskin is nothing like me.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1488 "2018-09-27T21:43:44Z")

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What’s your point?

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**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1489 "2018-09-27T21:47:03Z")

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Talk about your weird conversation stoppers…

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1490 "2018-09-27T21:47:40Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> What’s your point?

I could ask you the same.

You disagree with my views.  
Fine.

Vote for someone else.

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**Author:** ![Mingja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingja/32/50857_2.png) [@Mingja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingja)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1491 "2018-09-27T21:48:07Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Vote for someone else.

"don’t question me, troll!

Edit: Sorry, forgot something 😛

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1492 "2018-09-27T21:48:59Z")

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> [@Mingja](#):
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> > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > Vote for someone else.
> 
> “don’t question me!”

None of the trolls here will vote for me, no matter what I say.

I’m not the candidate for you.

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**Author:** ![Mingja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingja/32/50857_2.png) [@Mingja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingja)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1493 "2018-09-27T21:49:38Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> None of the trolls here will vote for me, no matter what I say.

Can a candidate vote himself?

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1494 "2018-09-27T21:51:16Z")

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> [@Mingja](#):
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> Can a candidate vote himself?

Yes, they can.

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**Author:** ![Mingja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingja/32/50857_2.png) [@Mingja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingja)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1495 "2018-09-27T21:51:35Z")

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> [@Mintoko](#):
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> Yes, they can.

well, then the one troll in here will probably vote for Salvos.

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**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1496 "2018-09-27T21:51:36Z")

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Only if he is subbed

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1497 "2018-09-27T21:51:48Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> You disagree with my views.  
> Fine.
> 
> Vote for someone else

I don’t have a problem with this statement, for once we actually agree on something.

Nonetheless I shall continue to question your platform and support as is the privilege of every member of the electorate.

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**Author:** ![Mingja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingja/32/50857_2.png) [@Mingja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingja)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1498 "2018-09-27T21:52:30Z")

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> [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](#):
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> Only if he is subbed

I would guess that he did. After all, he is posting here and holds the majority of postings in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Eve\_Griefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eve_griefer/32/277788_2.png) [@Eve\_Griefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eve_Griefer)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1499 "2018-09-27T21:52:52Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> ![](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/40/78249_1.png) Arrendis:
> 
> > So… how do you propose enforcing this idea in a way that has _any_ actual effect?
> 
> It will have actual effect as I have already proposed it and explained.  
> Whether you agree or not, is up to you.

After considering the arguments Arrendis laid out detailing why one candidate per corp or alliance cannot work, are you still of the opinion that it can. If so, could you please explain in as much detail how it could work.

Please note, I have considered the case of CCP requiring a candiadte to use their highest SP character and can see how such a character could still play\* with member of their ex-corp through the very simple means of setting corporate standings to blue.  
\*(Of course sovereignty actions would be affected to some degree)

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