# Running for CSM next year:

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072>\
**Category:** CSM Campaigns\
**Created:** [September 21, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072 "2018-09-21T10:35:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1600 "2018-09-27T23:10:23Z")

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> [@Mintoko](#):
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> depends on how round you think he is.

Are we talkin ‘Fat Albert’ round or Gabriel Iglesias before ddpyoga round??

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1601 "2018-09-27T23:10:47Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> Well, as you have indicated this thread is large, can you please cite your explanation or repost it, as I’ve reposted the difficulties I cited?

@Salvos_Rhoska why won’t you answer a simple question?

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1602 "2018-09-27T23:11:29Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> @Salvos_Rhoska why won’t you answer a simple question?

Good luck. It took six of us two days and 500 posts to get him to answer “yes or no” to a question.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1603 "2018-09-27T23:11:45Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> > [@Arrendis](#):
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> > Well, as you have indicated this thread is large, can you please cite your explanation or repost it, as I’ve reposted the difficulties I cited?
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> @Salvos_Rhoska why won’t you answer a simple question?

Sorry.  
Please re-state your question.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1604 "2018-09-27T23:12:15Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> @Salvos_Rhoska why won’t you answer a simple question?

nothing is simple with him… Thats why he’s got almost 500 posts here, where as the first person behind him is just shy of 200…

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1605 "2018-09-27T23:12:49Z")

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#RollingRadiusMatters

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1606 "2018-09-27T23:13:47Z")

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> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
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> Good luck. It took six of us two days and 500 posts to get him to answer “yes or no” to a question.

I answered it much earlier on.

Its not my fault you couldn’t formulate your question correctly, nor that your troll associates didn’t know the difference either.

The trolling/spamming thereafter, is not on my head.

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**Author:** ![Mingja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingja/32/50857_2.png) [@Mingja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingja)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1607 "2018-09-27T23:14:42Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> The trolling/spamming thereafter, is not on my head.

when you have the option to avoid something, isn’t it your fault when you let it happen?

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1608 "2018-09-27T23:14:47Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> The trolling/spamming thereafter, is not on my head.

Glad to hear that. I hear it’s difficult to balance trolls on one’s head.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1609 "2018-09-27T23:15:31Z")

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You claim you have explained why your proposal for limiting CSM seats to one per Alliance/Corp can be implemented without running into the [simple and easy methods for circumvention](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1469) that I have outlined. Can you either repost, or link to, your explanation, as I’ve done?

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1610 "2018-09-27T23:15:52Z")

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The trolls are the easy bit, it’s balancing the bridge while the goats jump all over the place that’s the problem.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1611 "2018-09-27T23:16:24Z")

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will the real CSM candidates please stand up, please stand up please stand up!!!

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**Author:** ![Dunk\_Dinkle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dunk_dinkle/32/319804_2.png) [@Dunk\_Dinkle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dunk_Dinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1612 "2018-09-27T23:20:11Z")

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I’ve done triathlons, half marathons, and 100 mile bike rides. I have Strava data to back it all up.

Does that qualify me for the CSM?

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1613 "2018-09-27T23:21:04Z")

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> [@Mingja](#):
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> > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > The trolling/spamming thereafter, is not on my head.
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> when you have the option to avoid something, isn’t it your fault when you let it happen?

All I can do is flag and report.  
The persistence of trolling here by persons trying to sabotage my campaign is beyond my means to remedy.

The trolls here dont care what I say, will twist it falsely regardless, and will never vote for me anyways.

Instead of just voting for another candidate, they want to sabotage me, because my platform threatens their interests for the CSM.

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**Author:** ![Mingja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingja/32/50857_2.png) [@Mingja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingja)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1614 "2018-09-27T23:25:29Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> All I can do is flag and report.  
> The persistence of trolling here by persons trying to sabotage my campaign is beyond my means to remedy.

You could have avoided all that, if you:

- wouldn’t have tried to discredit CSM members
- would have answered the questions asked the proper way (i.e. with arguments instead of statements/ make believe/ accusations)

Instead, you chose to not do the above and that’s what caused everything else. Just as you always do - in pretty much every single thread you appear in.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1615 "2018-09-27T23:29:18Z")

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> [@Mingja](#):
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> wouldn’t have tried to discredit CSM members

I can do so, as any other voter/EVE player can.  
My concerns in regard to the three that also attacked me here, are valid.

> [@Mingja](#):
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> would have answered the questions asked the proper way

I have done so.

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**Author:** ![Choking\_Coyote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/choking_coyote/32/83337_2.png) [@Choking\_Coyote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Choking_Coyote)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1616 "2018-09-27T23:29:24Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> A substantial proportion of players do not think they are working towards that end, and are just representing their overlords agendas.

Maybe that substantial proportion of players needs to start educating themselves before making those claims. Apart from the forums there are various EvE related news sites where quite some useful and interesting info can be picked up. (Not to mention that those sites are free from Salvos Rhoska shitposts, so that’s a bonus).

Q: Since you claim to know so much about what’s wrong with the CSM, have you ever visited any 3rd party EvE related sites apart from the forums and read some of the blogs/articles written by both current and previous CSM members? (Note: only a YES or NO will be accepted as a valid answer).

> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> > Precisely the point.
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> You edited out the rest, as to why they are currently silent.

Yup. He’s using your own tactics against you.

> [@Mintoko](#):
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> … but you will need them to actually get elected. So far, no one has come to support you even though this thread has been high in the section for almost a week.

Actually that’s not true. At least one came in here to offer support. Unfortunately, within the first few posts she told someone to “go and take a bath with a toaster”. The post has since been deleted as it was offensive. It appears this is the “silent majority” Salvos here is representing.

> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> My campaign and platform is legit.

Your platform is wobbly at best. Some might argue it actually collapsed a while back.

> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> This is not a "joke".

You’re probably the only one with that opinion.

> [@Mingja](#):
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> Even without saying any sentence with substance! can you imagine what would happen if he would present actual arguments?

There would be no replies as we would all be too baffled to come up with a suitable response…!

> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> You didnt run 5 miles in 12 mins, nor do you have proof of your affirmative claim.

It doesn’t matter wether he did or didn’t. The fact that you just can’t let that one go is funny as hell…!

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1617 "2018-09-27T23:32:11Z")

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Whom did you, as a person, vote for in last CSM?

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**Author:** ![Mingja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingja/32/50857_2.png) [@Mingja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingja)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1618 "2018-09-27T23:32:42Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> I can do so, as any other voter/EVE player can.

but then you can’t complain about meeting resistance, yet you do just that since what, 200 posts? You know what that is called.

> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> I have done so.

No, you didn’t. Not at all. But hey, we all give you another chance to answer Arrendis’ post. After all, it was repeatedly asked for and you will have a hard time finding anything you could use to claim “troll”.

I believe it was this one btw. Don’t quote me on that though, i am not 100% sure. [Running for CSM next year: - #1469 by Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1469)

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1619 "2018-09-27T23:34:40Z")

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> [@Mingja](#):
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> but then you can’t complain about meeting resistance

This isnt “resistance”.  
This has been trolling.  
These posters dont care, except to troll me.  
That is why they are here.

> [@Mingja](#):
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> No, you didn’t.

Yes, I did.

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