# Running for CSM next year:

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072>\
**Category:** CSM Campaigns\
**Created:** [September 21, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072 "2018-09-21T10:35:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 81

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1680 "2018-09-28T00:39:16Z")

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> [@Mintoko](#):
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> Why don’t you tell me what _you_ think they mean?

How about “No”?

They are what they are.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1681 "2018-09-28T00:39:49Z")

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Ok. I just thought you were insinuating something by it.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1682 "2018-09-28T00:40:23Z")

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> [@Mintoko](#):
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> Ok. I just thought you were insinuating something by it.

Everyone can draw their own conclusions from them.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1683 "2018-09-28T00:40:57Z")

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Okie dokie

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1684 "2018-09-28T00:42:22Z")

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> [@Mintoko](#):
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> Okie dokie

Indeedlydoodley.

Pretty clear case, imo, of whoms interests and whoms alts are being cycled through this thread to troll it.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1685 "2018-09-28T00:43:00Z")

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Oh? Who’s the puppetmaster?

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1686 "2018-09-28T00:43:35Z")

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> [@Mintoko](#):
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> Oh? Who’s the puppetmaster?

Stats speak for themselves.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1687 "2018-09-28T00:44:41Z")

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You are simply incapable of giving a direct answer and must have the last word, aren’t you?

> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Stats speak for themselves.

Obviously not, else I wouldn’t ask.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1688 "2018-09-28T00:45:14Z")

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> [@Mintoko](#):
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> You are simply incapable of giving a direct answer and must have the last word, aren’t you?

They stats are what they are.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1689 "2018-09-28T00:46:37Z")

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Okay.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1690 "2018-09-28T00:48:10Z")

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There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. ~Benjamin Disraeli

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1691 "2018-09-28T00:49:32Z")

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> [@Mintoko](#):
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> Okay.

Dont feel bad.

You aren’t the first troll I’ve wrecked with a stat background like yours.  
I know you people cycle the trolling in a misguided attempt to avoid detection, but its not working.

I’m out. Gonna watch Predator since years past, have some popcorn and go to sleep.  
Lets see how many more trolls post here till I get back thereafter.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1692 "2018-09-28T00:51:54Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> You claim you have explained why your proposal for limiting CSM seats to one per Alliance/Corp can be implemented without running into the [simple and easy methods for circumvention](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1469) that I have outlined. Can you either repost, or link to, your explanation, as I’ve done?

@Salvos_Rhoska I’m not going away. Why won’t you answer this?

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1693 "2018-09-28T00:52:27Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> You aren’t the first troll I’ve wrecked with a stat background like yours.  
> I know you people cycle the trolling in a misguided attempt to avoid detection, but its not working.

Avoid detection? Detection of what, trolling? You’ve called everyone in here a troll. There’s tons of “evidence” that obviously hasn’t been avoided.

I am not wrecked. You keep talking like an 11 year old child and I’m going to start wondering just who is actually in those videos.

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**Author:** ![Choking\_Coyote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/choking_coyote/32/83337_2.png) [@Choking\_Coyote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Choking_Coyote)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1694 "2018-09-28T00:55:37Z")

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@Salvos_Rhoska: Instead of accusing people of being trolls, this is exactly the kind of question you need to start answering seriously if you want to give your _platform_ any credibility.

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1695 "2018-09-28T01:04:09Z")

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> [@Mingja](#):
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> You could have avoided all that, if you:
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> - wouldn’t have tried to discredit CSM members

This is absolutely true.

I honestly would not have bothered coming in here other than to note that past candidates running on the “end the CSM” platform have not qualified by CCP to run and left it at that.

It was the attacks on Steve and later on me - including mocking how Steve looked, insinuating that his campaign and his efforts in EVE have been to make money for himself, then attacking me for my friends choosing to make a goofy fake campaign site that eventually became my real one, accusing them of lying, flat out saying that I promised things I didn’t deliver on, then calling me fat multiple times - that kept me here.

All of that could have been avoided by being respectful and courteous.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1696 "2018-09-28T01:05:47Z")

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Other than the legal aspects and EULA/Forum infractions, does CCP take extra consideration into whether or not someone can run? Do they actually deny someone who wants to end it?

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1697 "2018-09-28T01:11:05Z")

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IIRC they have declined to allow people to run if they express extremist views elsewhere.

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**Author:** ![Mintoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintoko/32/376766_2.png) [@Mintoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintoko)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1698 "2018-09-28T01:12:00Z")

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Elsewhere as in other games? They get that much into detail?

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1699 "2018-09-28T01:13:56Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Imo, its a Brisc alt.

This is libel.

It’s also not true. I only post on the forums under Brisc and always have.

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