# Running for CSM next year:

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072>\
**Category:** CSM Campaigns\
**Created:** [September 21, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072 "2018-09-21T10:35:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1723 "2018-09-28T10:52:22Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> I’m not nice, especially not to my enemies.

If you have actual Enemies because of Eve, you should probably walk away from it.

It’s a game.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1724 "2018-09-28T10:54:39Z")

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> [@Steve\_Ronuken](#):
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> > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > I’m not nice, especially not to my enemies.
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> If you have actual Enemies because of Eve, you should probably walk away from it.
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> It’s a game.

Tell that to those whom have decided I am their enemy.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1725 "2018-09-28T11:10:56Z")

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Fact vs Fiction:

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1726 "2018-09-28T11:12:34Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> This thread is almost entirely populated by trolls

It was even startet by one 😬

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**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1727 "2018-09-28T11:23:49Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > [@Steve\_Ronuken](#):
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> > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > > I’m not nice, especially not to my enemies.
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> > If you have actual Enemies because of Eve, you should probably walk away from it.
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> > It’s a game.
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> Tell that to those whom have decided I am their enemy.

You’re not important enough to have actual enemies. You’re just an unqualified turd nobody likes. There’s a big difference.

Speaking of which, maybe you ought to take a good long look at your life and address the “turd” part. You’re the one keeping this wheel spinning, after all. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I suspect legitimate troll… you seem to take a lot of pride in your post counts, which is 100% troll. Maybe you’ve got all those other mental illnesses we’ve been discussing. Hmm… maybe the DTSM (or whatever it’s called) needs to add Troll to their list of mental disorders.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1728 "2018-09-28T11:31:01Z")

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> [@mkint](#):
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> You’re just an unqualified turd nobody likes.

Ouch. That hurted my fee-fees…  
That was not very nice of you…

> [@mkint](#):
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> Hmm… maybe the DTSM (or whatever it’s called)

Clearly you are an expert in online psychiatric diagnosis.

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**Author:** ![Dantelion\_Shinoni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dantelion_shinoni/32/383315_2.png) [@Dantelion\_Shinoni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dantelion_Shinoni)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1729 "2018-09-28T11:49:01Z")

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I have to say.

At least Salvos offers an option for those who indeed do not like the CSM being metagamed for political influence.

This is an option that deserves to exist, the CSM could benefit from someone having a seat and making sure suggestions and mechanics are not used in a political way.

I like the CSM and wouldn’t want to see it disbanded, but I can get behind someone making sure mechanics and patches are fair.

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**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1730 "2018-09-28T11:50:28Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Tell that to those whom have decided I am their enemy.

Ingame enemy sure (even tho we know you don’t play, which makes it being impossible)

But outside the game, I don’t care  
Pretty sure no one cares about you enough in a non game related way 😂

You’re the only one seeing enemies here

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1731 "2018-09-28T11:58:21Z")

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> [@Dantelion\_Shinoni](#):
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> At least Salvos offers an option for those who indeed do not like the CSM being metagamed for political influence.
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> This is an option that deserves to exist, the CSM could benefit from someone having a seat and making sure suggestions and mechanics are not used in a political way.

Thank you.  
I’m your guy for that.

> [@Dantelion\_Shinoni](#):
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> I like the CSM and wouldn’t want to see it disbanded, but I can get behind someone making sure mechanics and patches are fair.

This will depend on players, CSM and CCP.

If CSM/CCP are reticent to change to CSM, then CSM disbandment is the final option.

I too prefer change, rather than disbandment, but if the former is blocked unreasonably, that leaves only the latter.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1732 "2018-09-28T12:11:27Z")

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> [@Annah\_Tsero](#):
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> But outside the game, I don’t care  
> Pretty sure no one cares about you enough in a non game related way

Are you sure about that?

Would you drink a beer with me IRL?

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1733 "2018-09-28T12:14:30Z")

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We may not buy you a beer, but we’re very unlikely to carry an ingame conflict into the real world in any other fashion.

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**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1734 "2018-09-28T12:15:04Z")

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Whatever I would decide to respond to that, you’d try to have the last word and doubt what I said 😂

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1735 "2018-09-28T12:15:06Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> We may not buy you a beer, but we’re very unlikely to carry an ingame conflict into the real world in any other fashion.

Nor would, or will I.

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**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1736 "2018-09-28T12:17:09Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Would you drink a beer with me IRL?

No  
Simply because I don’t drink 😂

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1737 "2018-09-28T12:21:45Z")

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> [@Annah\_Tsero](#):
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> > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > Would you drink a beer with me IRL?
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> No  
> Simply because I don’t drink 😂

You dont drink?  
Not even water?

Would you have a drink, of any kind, with me IRL?

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**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1738 "2018-09-28T12:23:43Z")

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Does it matter so much to you to know?

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**Author:** ![Wander\_Prian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wander_prian/32/394208_2.png) [@Wander\_Prian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wander_Prian)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1739 "2018-09-28T12:24:01Z")

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You want to change the CSM and CCP says no, what then?

You want to disband the CSM, and CCP says no, what then?

You want a public vote about disbanding the CSM and CCP says no, what then?

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1740 "2018-09-28T12:24:47Z")

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> [@Annah\_Tsero](#):
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> Does it matter so much to you to know?

Would you, or would you not, have a drink with me IRL?

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**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1741 "2018-09-28T12:25:57Z")

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I don’t have to answer 😃especially since you don’t answer my own EVE-related questions

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/running-for-csm-next-year/108072/1742 "2018-09-28T12:26:11Z")

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> [@Wander\_Prian](#):
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> You want to change the CSM and CCP says no, what then?

I continue on that platform, and fulfilling other CSM obligations.

> [@Wander\_Prian](#):
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> You want to disband the CSM, and CCP says no, what then?

I continue on that platform, and fulfilling other CSM obligations.

> [@Wander\_Prian](#):
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> You want a public vote about disbanding the CSM and CCP says no, what then?

I continue on that platform, and fulfilling other CSM obligations.

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