# \[SARUM\] Slaves Freed in Honor of Jubilee

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [September 28, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943 "2017-09-28T00:53:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veikitamo_gesakaarin/32/314638_2.png) [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veikitamo_Gesakaarin)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/81 "2017-10-10T20:10:29Z")

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> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#):
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> Yeah. Veik’s a little bit of a chameleon. (Meet “just kidding” Veik.) It’d be more annoying if it didn’t seem to have fair odds of actually being something really sad.

I suppose that might have had some bite if it wasn’t the bark from a half bred Quisling.

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**Author:** ![Alizabeth\_Vea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alizabeth_vea/32/122884_2.png) [@Alizabeth\_Vea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alizabeth_Vea)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/82 "2017-10-10T20:12:06Z")

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Heavy sigh.

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**Author:** ![Mitara\_Newelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mitara_newelle/32/384431_2.png) [@Mitara\_Newelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mitara_Newelle)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/83 "2017-10-10T20:23:43Z")

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> [@Anabella\_Rella](#):
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> I don’t consider myself or my people inferior to any individual, race or culture.

I am sure there is someone who considers themselves the best pilot in the cluster yet has never plunged into the void of space. What you may consider for yourself does not change what **is**.

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**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/515671_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/84 "2017-10-10T20:26:30Z")

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What **IS** is that I am not subservient to anyone, least of all some fairy tale believing slaver, slaver apologist or enabler.

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**Author:** ![Mitara\_Newelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mitara_newelle/32/384431_2.png) [@Mitara\_Newelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mitara_Newelle)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/85 "2017-10-10T20:38:36Z")

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> [@Anabella\_Rella](#):
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> What IS is that I am not subservient to anyone, least of all some fairy tale believing slaver, slaver apologist or enabler.

All in due time, Ms Rella, all in due time.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/86 "2017-10-10T20:57:20Z")

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> [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](#):
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> I suppose that might have had some bite if it wasn’t the bark from a half bred Quisling.

I don’t usually do or say things for the purpose of hurting people, Veik. Whether I’ve hurt you in the process of describing you is … well. For a lot of people, it’d be undesirable, but for you it’s just kind of irrelevant. After all, it’s impossible for me to say whether I’ve ever even met you.

Whether it seems bite or bark to you, what matters is whether people understand that what they’re seeing … can’t be trusted at all.

That’s a message people might accept even from a half-bred quisling.

(I am a little curious how you figure the last part, but actually unless the others agree with you I kind of don’t care. Explain, or not; as data points go it’ll probably be more useful for measuring you than me.)

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**Author:** ![Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veikitamo_gesakaarin/32/314638_2.png) [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veikitamo_Gesakaarin)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/87 "2017-10-10T21:38:03Z")

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> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#):
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> Whether it seems bite or bark to you, what matters is whether people understand that what they’re seeing … can’t be trusted at all.

Well, neither you nor anyone else beside a few I count on one hand I trust at all. There exists an equivalency there. I do not require trust to operate because people like you have no value to me, and mean nothing to me.

Which is why I can behave as I do, such as in this thread. I lost nothing, and gained what I wanted.

Besides, people do trust me when I’m in fleet and on grid to do what needs to be done. Which, in the end is all that matters as far as trust goes. Because until you or anyone else count for anything to me then there is no need for personal trust.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/88 "2017-10-10T21:43:54Z")

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Oh, good! Then we’ve both got what we wanted. That’s nice, then.

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**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/515671_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/89 "2017-10-10T23:18:43Z")

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> [@Mitara\_Newelle](#):
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> All in due time, Ms Rella, all in due time.

Not if several trillion Matari, Gallente and Caldari have anything to say about it.

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**Author:** ![Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veikitamo_gesakaarin/32/314638_2.png) [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veikitamo_Gesakaarin)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/90 "2017-10-10T23:21:59Z")

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One must enjoy those win/win scenarios as they arise.

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**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/91 "2017-10-11T00:56:59Z")

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Oh dear. Seems my lady has been stirring the pot.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/92 "2017-10-11T00:58:29Z")

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It’s the only way to keep it all boiling without burning the bottom.

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**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/93 "2017-10-11T01:43:40Z")

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I mean… well.

I guess I have to kill all of you now.

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**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/94 "2017-10-11T01:50:26Z")

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> [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#):
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> I guess I have to kill all of you now.

Fashion is eternal.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/95 "2017-10-11T02:02:48Z")

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Oh, c’mon, now you go tossing around _threats_ Aldrith… tell you what: You bring Mitty and the kids out, I’ll bring some Hug Juice, we’ll all kick back and relax and work things out. We’ve got points of common ground to work from, right?

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**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/96 "2017-10-11T02:04:46Z")

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I really wish I could, but have you ever _seen_ Mitara mad?

Yeah I’m going to take my chances in a Revelation over Pator, thanks.

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**Author:** ![Alizabeth\_Vea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alizabeth_vea/32/122884_2.png) [@Alizabeth\_Vea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alizabeth_Vea)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/97 "2017-10-11T02:05:59Z")

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Really heavy sigh.

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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/98 "2017-10-11T08:17:24Z")

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I don’t think the majority of Amarrians view “without slaves” as “better” unfortunately.

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**Author:** ![Vollhov\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vollhov_jr/32/510418_2.png) [@Vollhov\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vollhov_Jr)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/99 "2017-10-11T09:53:23Z")

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Someone in the past has freed millions of slaves.  
[You only hypocritically repeat what she once did.](http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Jamyl_I)  
Try to attract attention by borrowing Emancipation.

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**Author:** ![Alizabeth\_Vea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alizabeth_vea/32/122884_2.png) [@Alizabeth\_Vea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alizabeth_Vea)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sarum-slaves-freed-in-honor-of-jubilee/27943/100 "2017-10-11T12:44:14Z")

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Oh go \*\*\*\* yourself. Lady Newelle and I both love Empress Jamyl deeply. And follow in her example more than you ever could.

Anguish over her death and despair in her loss does not mean that you turn you back on her and the Empire. It doesn’t mean you throw away everything good and right. It doesn’t mean bitterness at the new Empress. Get over yourself.

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