# Sauce for the Gander

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 31, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784 "2020-12-31T16:50:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/141 "2020-12-31T23:02:40Z")

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lol if we’re going for that sort of cheese, Range 15 is where it’s at.

Crap acting, zero story and 'king hilarious; also William Shatner and Danny Trejo + some WWE folks.

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**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/142 "2020-12-31T23:14:31Z")

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that does sound like the ‘so bad at horror it’s brilliant comedy’ level stuff.

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**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/143 "2020-12-31T23:21:47Z")

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on another note, Steam must have and anti RSI function built in, or it and chrome are being like two seagulls with a frenchfry with a section of my ram

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/144 "2021-01-01T00:50:56Z")

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It’s crass, it’s puerile and way off colour, so not for the easily offended; written by and produced by ex military folks basically ripping the piss out of everything and anything.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/145 "2021-01-01T02:13:04Z")

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> [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](#):
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> _This is already happening_. You do not understand how gankers (which, again, is a _tiny_ portion of the PvP community, so please stop tarring every PvPer with the same brush) operate, and are making assumptions that are plain **wrong** as to how adding additional security-status-related mechanics would impact these players.

Look at the part I underlined.

Now look at the people that gave you likes.

Each and every one of those hypocrites spend the better part of every day on the forum tarring every high sec dweller with the same brush. And when they’re not doing that, they are crying and calling people names.

You people give me a headache from all the eyerolling I do when reading this forum.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/147 "2021-01-01T08:43:51Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> every high sec dweller

Not every highsec dweller is a carebear.

🙄

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/148 "2021-01-01T10:55:34Z")

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> [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](#):
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> Don’t apply real-world pirate treatment to the game - there are zero functional comparisons to be made. EVE isn’t trying to be realistic about this stuff. This is a deliberately messed-up NPC society that we are playing around in.

Years ago when CCP first implemented tax on NPC bounties, they officially said that they were trying to make Eve more realistic.

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**Author:** ![Joseph\_Panacan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/joseph_panacan/32/461889_2.png) [@Joseph\_Panacan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joseph_Panacan)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/149 "2021-01-01T11:40:35Z")

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> [@Avatar\_Sky-on](#):
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> If you have a Security clearance below 0, it’s SOS to pass through Concorde space

what does this mean, do you means ppl with sec status below 0 should be banned from hisec? Do you know that you indeed can be shot if your sec status get below a certain point?

> [@Avatar\_Sky-on](#):
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> then you have to trust to be able to find them on the market on .5\< space.

What does that even mean? Just get a jita alt, how hard is that?

> [@Avatar\_Sky-on](#):
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> but to be efficient in mining or hauling

You have courier and Jita alt

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**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/150 "2021-01-01T11:46:13Z")

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> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> Yes, you’ll get a bunch of personal attacks from the high-sec “PvP” crowd

What you’‘’ get is attacked by the same 5 forum idiots, thats what this place has become now.

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/151 "2021-01-01T13:28:01Z")

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> [@Xuxe\_Xu](#):
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> That’s one of the few things you have said that I agree with! \o/

So you _disagree_ with “EVE should be designed better to create more player interest” and “PvP should be designed better so more players engage in it” and “making changes that broadly reduce all player activity in the game is poor design”?

I’m not exactly sure why anyone would be in favor of bad design and less players doing fewer things in the game, but hey, you do you!

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/152 "2021-01-01T17:16:05Z")

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![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/9/c920eda117026da4607815546eb98d8fbae0f618.gif)

…sure…

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**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/154 "2021-01-01T20:31:13Z")

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Ok, but in english.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/155 "2021-01-01T21:20:33Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Not every highsec dweller is a carebear.

Do you ever stop admitting to things nobody accused you of?

You sir, are an interrogators dream assignment.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/156 "2021-01-01T22:23:58Z")

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> [@Avatar\_Sky-on](#):
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> That means for all the folks who want the perks of being a ‘pirate’ they get to be treated like one…  
> Want to buy some shiny new ship, or really good modules, then you have to trust to be able to find them on the market on .5\< space. Can’t find what you are looking for, then feel free to take on all the various NPC rats and hope to get a good loot drop, of course for the -really- good stuff, you’ll have to take on the strongest and most dangerous rats, after all, there should be no reward without risk, no?  
> Still can’t find the new ship or modules you want, then you can feel free to go and find BPC/BPO and make them yourselves.  
> Oh, but to be efficient in mining or hauling what you need to build your PVP ship, you’ll have to go about in those vulnerable mining and industrial ships you love to destroy… don’t worry, you should be perfectly safe if you use your d-scan and such, there aren’t going to be any other folks or NPCs out there wanting to turn your ship into debris, right?  
> Oh, that’s right… you’ll have to spend time and effort to buy and train up skills for things like mining, reprocessing, and trade… what’s the matter, you don’t want to have to take any actual effort to do what it is you like in EVE?
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> after all, if those kinds of changes rae good for the ‘carebears’, then they should be equally as good for the PVP and Gankers, no?

Didn’t read the rest of the replies yet, but here’s what I will say on this:

I’m completely fine with this, in exchange for the punishment for criminal activity **not** being an automatic kill trigger from an NPC police force. Want me to live on the fringes of society? Fine. In exchange, I want to be able to shoot you, and actually have a chance of getting away afterwards, instead of having the server fire a magical death ray at my ship.

Sounds good?

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/157 "2021-01-02T00:19:33Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> Now look at the people that gave you likes.
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> Each and every one of those hypocrites spend the better part of every day on the forum tarring every high sec dweller with the same brush. And when they’re not doing that, they are crying and calling people names.

It’s not anybody else’s fault if you can’t work out how to get notifications on your device(s) about eve forum stuff, muffincakes.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/158 "2021-01-02T00:29:35Z")

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You quoted me and then responded to something else entirely.

Weird. You a Scoots alt?

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/159 "2021-01-02T01:02:43Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> You quoted me and then responded to something else entirely.

Nope.

> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> You a Scoots alt?

Nope.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/160 "2021-01-02T01:53:20Z")

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I thought I was the Scoots alt, and you’re the Aiko alt?

Can someone dig up Dracvlad’s evidence board so that we can establish some clarity with regard to who’s who?

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/161 "2021-01-02T02:02:39Z")

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An observant person can identify an unknown main by observing a character’s posting characteristics.

You know…the “walks like a duck” test.

Perhaps @Dracvlad is one of those gifted with superior observation skills.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sauce-for-the-gander/287784/162 "2021-01-02T02:05:30Z")

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He’s got a very particular set of skills.

He _will_ figure out who you are, and he _will_ report you.

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