# Say it with one sentence why EVE is bad **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 1, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588 "2018-03-01T22:19:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![CowQueen\_MMXII](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cowqueen_mmxii/32/446332_2.png) [@CowQueen\_MMXII](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CowQueen_MMXII)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/43 "2018-03-02T10:56:52Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > one word even: NES I don’t think that Eve is actually bad, it just could be better and definitly felt better for me some years ago. But if I had to pick one thing, the one Ima mentions would be it. ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Errogance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_errogance/32/57325_2.png) [@Major\_Errogance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Errogance)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/44 "2018-03-02T11:14:50Z")
There is no one near 75000 character alliance, but as some have as many as 250 accounts and each account has 3 character slots I guesstimate the largest clan has about 3000~5000 humans in it. Which is a lot of humans. : ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/2/12becc0f6ef901aed6f86f8aff3760c4e29f2287.png) ---
**Author:** ![Linus\_Gorp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/linus_gorp/32/317333_2.png) [@Linus\_Gorp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Linus_Gorp)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/45 "2018-03-02T11:17:00Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > Could you elaborate on exactly what it is that makes the new players nowadays such little bitches? Helicopter parenting, social media, society, increasing illiteracy, CCP dumbing the game down to the lowest common denominator, entitlement mindset, … The list goes on and on… ---
**Author:** ![Rhalina\_Sedai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhalina_sedai/32/57980_2.png) [@Rhalina\_Sedai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhalina_Sedai)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/46 "2018-03-02T13:00:45Z")
Depends on how many skill injectors were purchased from Jita before they undocked. ---
**Author:** ![Rhalina\_Sedai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhalina_sedai/32/57980_2.png) [@Rhalina\_Sedai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhalina_Sedai)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/47 "2018-03-02T13:03:01Z")
Goons have approx 6052 subscribers to the youtube channel, and Mittens did say they were a lot of alts in GSF. ---
**Author:** ![LouHodo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/louhodo/32/109593_2.png) [@LouHodo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LouHodo)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/48 "2018-03-02T19:50:59Z")
Lack of personal touch for players, lots of spreadsheet gaming. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/49 "2018-03-02T20:53:51Z")
Pandemic Legion. ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_Moe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fluffy_moe/32/11132_2.png) [@Fluffy\_Moe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fluffy_Moe)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/50 "2018-03-02T20:56:53Z")
Nullsec cap proliferation, powercreep, bots. ---
**Author:** ![Viktor\_Calies](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/viktor_calies/32/50577_2.png) [@Viktor\_Calies](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Viktor_Calies)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/51 "2018-03-02T21:47:08Z")
Yup. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk1wtt7qvKA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk1wtt7qvKA) Eve is only limited by its code. They should have been rewriting this game in C++ years ago. Eve isn’t a bad game. Never has been. ---
**Author:** ![Chribba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chribba/32/396873_2.png) [@Chribba](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chribba)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/52 "2018-03-02T22:14:10Z")
15 years later, it’s not the same forces keeping me to stick around. (Not that I expected it to be, I’m honestly surprised it has lasted this long) /c ---
**Author:** ![Gwenaelle\_de\_Ardevon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gwenaelle_de_ardevon/32/283957_2.png) [@Gwenaelle\_de\_Ardevon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gwenaelle_de_Ardevon)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/53 "2018-03-02T22:30:16Z")
Space submarines … ---
**Author:** ![Viktor\_Calies](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/viktor_calies/32/50577_2.png) [@Viktor\_Calies](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Viktor_Calies)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/54 "2018-03-02T23:54:51Z")
Yeah. Submarines in space even. Actually I’ve NO IDEA what she’s talking about lol ---
**Author:** ![Piugattuk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/piugattuk/32/292316_2.png) [@Piugattuk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Piugattuk)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/55 "2018-03-02T23:59:28Z")
Refusal of CCP to rewrite eve’s code in with newer engines that could support more expansions that players always ask for, also eve’s dying. ---
**Author:** ![Viktor\_Calies](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/viktor_calies/32/50577_2.png) [@Viktor\_Calies](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Viktor_Calies)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/56 "2018-03-03T00:19:28Z")
Oddly, this is what I’ve been saying through anonymous characters in the forums for the past 10 years lol I always got resistance from certain hard core players for reasons I could never figure out. I mean, why would a player care more about present game play than the long term survival of the game? ---
**Author:** ![Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vol_arm_ooo/32/213741_2.png) [@Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vol_Arm_OOO)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/57 "2018-03-03T00:37:29Z")
> [@Rhalina\_Sedai](#): > > Paying real world money for plex, selling it in game for that shiny new ship you been after i.e. a freighter. Undock get to the local gate and you get bumped for hours, you pay them the ransom which costs you another plex and then they all jump in and blow you sky high and you lose everything. Thats your problem right there. New players won’t stand for that ■■■■ and will quit faster than light speed. This has been happening literally forever and people still continue to play eve. Also who cares if a wallet warrior leaves the game? They never stay in anyone game for long anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vol_arm_ooo/32/213741_2.png) [@Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vol_Arm_OOO)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/58 "2018-03-03T00:46:45Z")
> [@Mar\_vel](#): > > Size still matters the most: if you’re not in a large corp or alliance, access to premium content, experiences and rewards is very limited. There is no such thing as premium content. Moreover experiences and rewards scale. Fundamentally there is simply no “fun” differential between doing a l2 mission and a l4 mission or say getting involved in frig pvp vs hot dropping in blops. In fact some people actually prefer small scale pvp with t1 ships to fleet and capital combat. It’s just a question of finding your niche. ---
**Author:** ![Pix\_Severus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pix_severus/32/394032_2.png) [@Pix\_Severus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pix_Severus)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/59 "2018-03-03T04:59:26Z")
The NPE, because it doesn’t encourage communication with other players enough, leaving us with large amounts of players who silently grind until they get bored and quit. ---
**Author:** ![Ezio\_Dicostanzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ezio_dicostanzo/32/270168_2.png) [@Ezio\_Dicostanzo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ezio_Dicostanzo)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/60 "2018-03-03T08:39:25Z")
War decks I have seen dozen of players leave because of this newbie greifing mechanic It should be totally removed until CCP find a new way to implement it ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/61 "2018-03-03T08:55:31Z")
Yup, I’ve also seen older more experienced players leave due to that as well. ---
**Author:** ![Kenneth\_Endashi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenneth_endashi/32/256217_2.png) [@Kenneth\_Endashi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenneth_Endashi)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/say-it-with-one-sentence-why-eve-is-bad/60588/62 "2018-03-03T09:18:51Z")
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