# SB ratting havens still possible?

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**Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\
**Created:** [May 31, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sb-ratting-havens-still-possible/163178 "2019-05-31T00:00:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Serin\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serin_koraka/32/138703_2.png) [@Serin\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serin_Koraka)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sb-ratting-havens-still-possible/163178/1 "2019-05-31T00:00:15Z")

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As the title says. I’ve been away from the game for awhile and noticed that all the rock havens I’ve come across don’t have the cage-like rock formation anymore. I know that this rock formation helped keep the rats enclosed, but I don’t know how critical it was for this method to work.

Has anyone tried since this change and are you still having success?

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**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sb-ratting-havens-still-possible/163178/2 "2019-05-31T06:07:34Z")

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That’s something CCP only did to Angel Havens. Go to Botter Paradise Delve or Guristas, Serpentis or Sansha space where the cages are still intact. I’ve never understood why CCP only ruined Angel NPC in this way.

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**Author:** ![AVATARIUS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatarius/32/388235_2.png) [@AVATARIUS](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AVATARIUS)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sb-ratting-havens-still-possible/163178/3 "2019-08-26T19:39:47Z")

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Blood Rider still have their rounded bubble like Rock Formation but what rly sucks is the respawn time from about 20 min now! Allmost impossible to run sites continously now with SBs.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sb-ratting-havens-still-possible/163178/4 "2019-11-24T19:39:52Z")

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