# Scanning of Salvage **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [July 9, 2025, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662 "2025-07-09T09:51:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/21 "2025-07-10T11:42:51Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > I would propose here that wrecks can _always_ be tractored, no matter who owns them. Just the process of stealing the loot gives suspect. Can you not tractor yellow wrecks with regular tractor beams? I don’t know, I rarely go to HS and ‘owned’ wrecks are a foreign concept to me. In NS a MTU will simply pull everything. I’ve heard a MTU in HS won’t pull yellow wrecks, but what about tractor beams on your Noctis? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/22 "2025-07-10T11:56:47Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > but what about tractor beams on your Noctis > [@What is the point of tractor beams and tractor beam bonuses?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-tractor-beams-and-tractor-beam-bonuses/270232/14): > > Dropping MTU in null and low can be dangerous as it can be combat probed. Tractor beams predate the absurdly cheap, low volume & op mtu & other deployables. They can be used in abysal to date to speed up farming. Basically tractors belong to a less brain dead era of eve. Tractors were always broken in the sense they could not tractor yellow wrecks. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/23 "2025-07-10T12:07:45Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > I’ve heard a MTU in HS won’t pull yellow wrecks, but what about tractor beams on your Noctis? Haven’t tested that for a while. Will do so. Edit: No, you can’t tractor in yellow wrecks, you get an error message saying that you are not allowed to do so. Just tested it in a Noctis. Bad mechanic imho. Wrecks should automatically become “abandoned” 15min after spawning (15min is like a standard-timer for many things related to player interaction anyway, so somehow easily to learn and remember). This would give the owner all chances to have them tractored in and looted by an MTU while inside the site and loot them, but others have the chance to do so if he leaves them unattended for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/24 "2025-07-10T13:14:06Z")
The server is already maintaining a list of current wrecks in a system, making them visible to the probe scanning panel is not that expensive ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/25 "2025-07-10T14:18:04Z")
How will your probe scanner perform with 500+ new signatures? ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/26 "2025-07-10T14:42:46Z")
The scroll bar will get shorter ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/27 "2025-07-10T14:57:20Z")
Im all for it, salvage is trash these days anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/28 "2025-07-10T15:38:31Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > salvage is trash these days anyway Which makes it especially funny that it still triggers some people when you salvage their wrecks right in front of them. 🤔 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Rhett\_Schouten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhett_schouten/32/412798_2.png) [@Rhett\_Schouten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhett_Schouten)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/29 "2025-07-10T20:17:58Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > We had this _idea_ like a dozen times. It is not a good one. For the simple reason that wrecks usually appear _in dozens_ or _hundreds_. In crowded PvE systems even _by the thousands_. > > You want to make them all scannable? And probably last longer? Thats a ridiculous workload for the server to maintain all those active sigs and calculate sometimes thousands of scan results for _each_ probe sweep. Just for the benefit that a few newbros can make some pocket money? Use your brain; don’t do it in a way that OBVIOUSLY DOESN’T WORK. Implement a solution THAT WORKS. The number of times that the naysayers point out the OBVIOUSLY BAD SOLUTIONS and then switch their brain off vs. Actually considering an implementation that would work is astounding. I’ll leave it to you to decide which of those two alternative response strategies you followed. Cars will never work; here’s why. Planes will never work: here’s why. Phones will never work; here’s why. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/30 "2025-07-10T21:32:51Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Can you not tractor yellow wrecks with regular tractor beams? No you cannot, even if you turn your safety to yellow. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/31 "2025-07-10T21:57:43Z")
Weird HS rules, those can be changed if you ask me. ---
**Author:** ![Blenden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blenden/32/498978_2.png) [@Blenden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blenden)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/32 "2025-07-10T23:33:45Z")
Let me warp to a wreck that D-scan shows and I would be happy 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/33 "2025-07-11T04:57:16Z")
Then come around with a suggestion that _would work_ instead. You know, putting some effort and thougt about detail into an idea instead of just throwing a wishlist on the table. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/34 "2025-07-11T05:51:46Z")
> [@Blenden](#): > > Let me warp to a wreck that D-scan shows and I would be happy 😉 Would be a bit too easy to warp to (and kill) the person creating those wrecks if you could do so directly, don’t you think? 😛 You can warp to wrecks on dscan, but with a bit more effort by either finding the anomaly or belt those wrecks are made at and warping to that, or by triangulating the wrecks with dscan, warp drive and bookmarks if the anomaly has despawned. It will take you some minutes though to get to a grid like that, not really worth the effort for some wrecks that you can much more easily create yourself or find by cooperating with others. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/35 "2025-07-11T13:04:29Z")
like specific probes for wrecks? ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/36 "2025-07-11T18:51:34Z")
Which would achieve _nothing_ because _again_ every wreck of maybe _thousands_ in a populated mission running system would generate a scannable signature? It doesn’t matter what probes you use, the server would need to generate and maintain all those thousands of signatures as long as the wrecks exist. And everytime someone drops these probes, it has to calculate scan-results based on the probers strength for - in the worst case - thousands of wrecks in multiple locations. ---
**Author:** ![Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syeed_ameer_ali/32/411549_2.png) [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syeed_Ameer_Ali)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/37 "2025-07-11T20:34:38Z")
I’m fine with this one. Most of the ideas posted here are so ■■■■■■■ dumb. It’s just like a kneejerk reflex for some people to dismiss them out of hand. But I don’t see any particular drawbacks with this one. Also, I quite like combat probing salvagers. They never seem to expect it. And all those wrecks ■■■■ up my dscan sometimes. The more salvagers out there the better imo. ---
**Author:** ![Rhett\_Schouten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhett_schouten/32/412798_2.png) [@Rhett\_Schouten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhett_Schouten)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/38 "2025-07-13T03:09:27Z")
Like how you put effort into automatically naysaying and gatekeeping every single idea every single time no matter what? My god that is exhausting. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/39 "2025-07-13T04:00:52Z")
Sry, there is an _argument_ missing in your post. If you would put a bit more effort into your replies and suggestions, you’d receive less negative feedback. I promise! ---
**Author:** ![Rhett\_Schouten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhett_schouten/32/412798_2.png) [@Rhett\_Schouten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhett_Schouten)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 4:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662/40 "2025-07-13T04:08:38Z")
You are not actually sorry. You couldn’t’ care less if we put more effort into making an argument. The level of negative feedback from you would remain consistent. Your promise is a lie. You are a naysayer and a gatekeeper. You are afraid of anything that might threaten the status quo, regardless of how peripheral it is. Your aim is to constrain and control the discussion of new ideas and to shut down suggestions before they can be fleshed out and elaborated upon. You are a gatekeeper and a naysayer. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scanning-of-salvage/492662.md?page=3)