# Scarcity, how the gankers don't want you to see and think about it **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 5, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755 "2020-12-05T15:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/61 "2020-12-06T11:11:40Z")
And it’s a clear sign by CCP that the red button exists and can be activated: ganking is an intended part of the game. ---
**Author:** ![Miranda\_Farron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miranda_farron/32/250852_2.png) [@Miranda\_Farron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miranda_Farron)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/62 "2020-12-06T11:19:10Z")
> [@Avatar\_Sky-on](#): > > I pointed out that scarcity could be made, if the ‘carebares’ were to start doing things like removing points, scrams, webs and neuts from the market by reprocessing them for the minerals, and making them scarce in the market This is just a fairy tale. No one is going to make an item that drops from NPCs and is mass produced all over New Eden scarce. What you’re essentially expecting, that an entire element of EVE’s gameplay could be removed (points, scrams, webs and neuts are a huge deal) is about as realistic as expecting to be able to remove guns, or combat ships. Sadly, while it’s a nice plan (if not a little unrealistic) you’re forgetting the people who have 25 account gank fleets also have 25 Industrial / Mining alts. Anything you could try to take away from them they would make themselves. And, scarcity doesn’t work when you’re talking about people who only get out of bed for AFK haulers carrying 10 billion in cargo. They can afford scarcity. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/63 "2020-12-06T12:01:29Z")
> [@Avatar\_Sky-on](#): > > if the ‘carebares’ [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/5/150c02145294153999619aa7934bdad0afcd7c62.jpeg "You Serious?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4) ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/64 "2020-12-06T12:19:43Z")
Sol, so using your own words and logic, to call you a cancer and an ass isn’t your logic biting you in the ass? ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/65 "2020-12-06T12:21:42Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > Do you really believe one can’t mine on one account … > … while suicide ganking on another, at the same time? > > We both know that I’m not actually afk. so in other words, something that you say is a cancer in -other- people, and they should be kicked out from the game, is perfectly -valid- if -YOU- do it?? a little full of ourselves are we? ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/66 "2020-12-06T12:23:28Z")
Sol, but first you should learn to read, and see what was said is that -you- have a loser’s attitude… after all you can quote Solstice\_Projekt on that > [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > … which, I guess, is also another reason why you can’t stop posting about that what you hate. 🙂 > > You’re a loser and it’s hilarious. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/67 "2020-12-06T12:26:38Z")
Miranda, let’s just do a little math then… let’s say that 6000 miners, instead of dropping 5 points to the market, choose to reprocess them instead that means 30,000 units no longer on the market… you don’t think that would have any effect at all?? and if they make a -habit- of doing it?? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/68 "2020-12-06T12:28:03Z")
Go ahead, do it. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/69 "2020-12-06T12:29:06Z")
already have been, and starting to mention doing so to other folks as well… there are some folks who like the idea of gun mining, rather than having to dive down to low/null ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/70 "2020-12-06T12:32:07Z")
Good, so now it’s just a matter of time before we see the price of those evil modules go up! It can happen any day now! ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/71 "2020-12-06T12:43:50Z")
> [@Neo\_Bladedrifter](#): > > How will I join seeing some attitudes of my fellow carebears. Instead of offering some anti Ganking method they are here arguing and being salty. I don’t know what that’s supposed to be having to do with you. Just talk to Githany. These guys aren’t carebears and they’re having fun, too! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/72 "2020-12-06T12:44:51Z")
Well, when the HS miners start to think and realize “hey, if we reprocess the stuff the belt rats drop, we won’t have to go inlo LS/NS space as much” it will start showing a marked change in availibility ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/73 "2020-12-06T12:46:07Z")
Is this a Messiah complex in the making? ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/74 "2020-12-06T12:55:31Z")
Nope, just a common sense idea, and the more you keep slinging Ad Homs, expletives and other trash talk, the more active the thread becomes, and the odds go up that some carebears may see it and go hey… why didn’t I think of that. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/75 "2020-12-06T13:04:55Z")
And there’s also the added bonus of being able to directly quote Sol as advocating that AFK mining is a perfectly valid and acceptable method of game play. that will go over so well in so many of his rant threads. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/76 "2020-12-06T13:11:53Z")
Sure, if we ignore my follow up posts and that it’s not actually afk … … but I appreciate that you’re declaring me an authority on the matter of mining. 🙂 Go for it! 😊 One thing is clear in any case: You really didn’t read and think the posts through _properly_ … 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/77 "2020-12-06T13:15:46Z")
Oh, just like you called me a liar, but coudn’t provide a single example of me lying? I can directly quote you saying “Doing X is bad, it is cancer, and CCP wants to boot you from the game for doing it” and also directly quote you as saying “Doing X is perfectly legit and an acceptable method of play” so who better to argue against your point, then letting your own words do it… what will you do, go on to prove that Sol is an idiot, and doesn’t know what he’s talking about? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inxentas_ultramar/32/385922_2.png) [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inxentas_Ultramar)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/78 "2020-12-06T13:32:40Z")
TL;DR. I am not going to wade through all of this. I can farm points, webs and neuts myself. Since you can’t stop me from logging in and playing the game, you cannot stop me from accumulating points, webs and neuts. The idea to outbuy gankers is rather silly when you think about the drop rates of these modules. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/79 "2020-12-06T13:39:30Z")
True, but for every time you are farming rats, you aren’t ganking miners and industrials, so it still comes out as a ‘win’ of achieving that goal. and the ‘outbuy’ may have been mis-understood if there are now low/null sec minerals in your local market, you simply buy points, neuts, scrams, webs, and reprocess them, now you have access to low/null sec minerals from your local market, with a side benefit of there being less of these modules to be used against you. developing this habit -will- have a scarcity effect on the market. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-how-the-gankers-dont-want-you-to-see-and-think-about-it/283755/80 "2020-12-06T15:01:31Z")
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