# Scarcity in the Stars: Capsuleer Day XXII **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 17, 2025, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383 "2025-04-17T11:11:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/123 "2025-05-05T15:37:15Z")
I already have written about my little corner of Matar low-sec space. Lately it looks more like Jita - many new names in local… Don’t know what to expect 🤭 However, today in the nearest high-sec system i have completed 3 combat sites. Loot fairy was in a good mood so I’m pretty happy. Why am i writing this? Just to reiterate on: there are places and time periods when these sites are plenty and not very populated. ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/124 "2025-05-05T16:34:26Z")
Yep I agree. I’ve had a productive day in HS sites today with some decent drops, skin, and booster wise. What has got me a bit confused though is that I can take my Paladin in a HS site, but not my Noctis which is strange. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/125 "2025-05-06T11:50:11Z")
I finally completed the event. It took about ten times as long. * * * ![CDXII Completed](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/f/6/ef64ea148d3e8dea7e744b0ca4d18129ad48118d.png) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Skjer\_Artrald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skjer_artrald/32/462498_2.png) [@Skjer\_Artrald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skjer_Artrald)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/126 "2025-05-06T12:11:40Z")
oh no u didnt ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/127 "2025-05-06T12:22:01Z")
> [@Skjer\_Artrald](#): > > oh no Most of the loot… * * * ![CDXXII Loot](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/c/3/2c3aac78ec6684c258357922127b28fa26798e2d.jpeg) * * * ![2025.05.05.11.56.11](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/2/5/b254440346cc2675f01e149bc19b2df85287b819.jpeg) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Denyial](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/denyial/32/426393_2.png) [@Denyial](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Denyial)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/128 "2025-05-06T12:23:27Z")
LOL they “greatly reduced the spawn rates of all event sites”. thats how eve makes sure it F’s with people…CCP is stupid beyond belief… ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/129 "2025-05-06T12:30:38Z")
> [@Denyial](#): > > they “greatly reduced the spawn rates of all event sites” Scarcity in _EVE Online_—referring to CCP’s deliberate reduction of in-game resource availability starting around late 2019—has been **one of the most divisive and controversial decisions** in the game’s history. Here’s how it’s been received over the years, broken down clearly: * * * ### 🔻 **Initial Reaction (2019–2020): “Scarcity Era Begins”** - **Intent** : CCP wanted to reset the economy by reducing mineral yields, limiting moon mining output, and making capital/supercapital production more difficult. - **Player Reaction** : - **Negative** : Many industrialists, miners, and alliance logistics coordinators were furious. The cost of ships—especially capitals—skyrocketed. - **Nullsec backlash** : Large alliances like Goonswarm and TEST criticized the changes as anti-player and overly punitive. - **PvE Burnout** : Mission runners and miners quit or scaled back—content became less rewarding. - **Reddit, forums, and media** : Frequent posts complaining about the game feeling “empty” and “grindy.” * * * ### 🔄 **Mid-Scarcity (2021): “Where’s the promised rebalance?”** - CCP promised that scarcity was temporary and a “rebalancing” phase would follow. - **No immediate relief** → **player trust deteriorated**. - **Player count dropped** to one of the lowest active userbases in over a decade. * * * ### ⚠ **Tipping Point: “Rattati vs. the Community”** - CCP Rattati (a key dev) made dismissive public remarks like “we’re not here to make you happy, we’re here to fix the game.” - Community backlash intensified: - **#CCPlease** movement. - Large content creators and veterans left or scaled down engagement. - _Jita protests_ and unsub threats mounted. * * * ### 💥 **“The End of Scarcity” (Late 2021):** - CCP announced a partial rollback of scarcity with the _New Dawn_ patch. - **Reception** : Mixed to negative. - **Positive** : Some mining buffs and ship production improvements. - **Negative** : Many felt it didn’t go far enough, and new mechanics (like compression changes) were seen as half-baked. * * * ### 📉 **Lingering Effects (2022–2024):** - Trust in CCP eroded. - The long-term damage to the industrial base, capital ship pipeline, and new player retention was significant. - Scarcity is now **often cited as a primary reason for EVE’s declining concurrent player count** in that era. * * * ### 🧠 **Current Sentiment (2025):** - **Veteran players** : Still bitter. Many blame scarcity for gutting alliance wars and killing the “cold war economy.” - **Newer players** : Less directly impacted, but suffer from legacy market instability. - **General consensus** : The idea of economic correction had merit, but the implementation was heavy-handed, prolonged, and out of touch with player needs. * * * ### Summary **Scarcity was intended to fix the economy but instead alienated a massive portion of the player base, damaged trust in CCP, and contributed to a significant dip in player engagement.** ---
**Author:** ![Skjer\_Artrald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skjer_artrald/32/462498_2.png) [@Skjer\_Artrald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skjer_Artrald)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/130 "2025-05-06T12:36:09Z")
while i agree with most of your post, the spawn **time** is reduced so it should make things slightly more bearable ofcourse it was even better if the stupid even never got extended, or even better, never conceived ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/131 "2025-05-06T13:12:03Z")
> [@Skjer\_Artrald](#): > > slightly more bearable It figures. I go to Jita to “store” all of my loot from the event, and guess what… * * * ![CDXXII Sites Jita](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/9/9/199edda59413489e3d98f7c36ef5f7821fb50c31.png) * * * Now that I don’t need the sites to spawn, **they’re everywhere!!!** ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/132 "2025-05-06T13:38:53Z")
The irony is… ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/133 "2025-05-06T13:53:35Z")
Unmistakable… ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/134 "2025-05-06T13:56:50Z")
Yeah, if they’re going to tweak the spawn rate they should do it at the **beginning** of the event… ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/135 "2025-05-06T14:01:08Z")
I guess I’m **not** done the event; they added another 550 points of rewards… ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/136 "2025-05-06T14:10:27Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > they added another 550 points of rewards… I just noticed that. I thought I had somehow missed it before. _I’m glad to know that I’m not crazy…_ ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/137 "2025-05-06T14:16:29Z")
> [@Skjer\_Artrald](#): > > oh no u didnt Did you know then? > [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > they added another 550 points of rewards… ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/138 "2025-05-06T14:23:55Z")
And…back to “scarcity”… ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/139 "2025-05-06T15:04:48Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote](#): > > “we’re not here to make you happy, we’re here to fix the game.” And that’s the way they should be running things. If they only made changes to keep players happy, EVE would be ten times worse because most of you want some pretty stupid ■■■■. Scarcity came about from nullsec being able to make billions upon billions of ISK hand over fist, every minute of every day. CCP corrected that. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/140 "2025-05-06T15:11:11Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > EVE would be ten times worse because most of you want some pretty stupid ■■■■. So let me get this straight: _Players asking for changes is stupid_, but when CCP nerfs nullsec because players were making too much ISK, that’s **not** them responding to player behavior? Scarcity was _literally_ CCP reacting to how players optimized the game—yet somehow when other players point out broken systems or miserable mechanics, _they’re the problem_? You can’t have it both ways. Either CCP responds to players and balance is justified, or all changes are invalid if they’re reactive. Scarcity was a player-driven problem met with a developer-driven solution. Just like every other balance patch ever. ---
**Author:** ![Shion\_Ishii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shion_ishii/32/389684_2.png) [@Shion\_Ishii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shion_Ishii)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/141 "2025-05-06T16:16:04Z")
Is the top reward really yet another “rare” Drifter plugsuit… maybe, if you’re lucky??? But likely something less than even that? ---
**Author:** ![Ahama\_Talvanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahama_talvanen/32/459609_2.png) [@Ahama\_Talvanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahama_Talvanen)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383/142 "2025-05-06T17:09:17Z")
What happened to anoms? They are gone … not reduced while they were suppose to increase … GONE. SOme hot fix maybe? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarcity-in-the-stars-capsuleer-day-xxii/483383.md?page=8)