# Scrambled Relay - Winter Nexus Data site - How to unlock it? Possible BUG? **URL:** \ **Category:** In Game Events\ **Created:** [December 11, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847 "2025-12-11T21:10:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847/1 "2025-12-11T21:10:22Z")
I found a Sansha structure\* and two relays in one WightStorm Data site. One relay was accessible. The other was scrambled by this Sansha Structure with a cargo space… Maybe made to put something inside??? \*Sansha Stormfield Projector - full exact name Some kind of “key” obtained from Youi LADS I still have no Idea where to find, together with those “Water suckers”??? I checked on the market and elsewhere, under the name "Cryo there0s a bunch of things… none looks like a “KEY” of any kind… more like tiny Robot-Viruses… Anyway… If someone has any Idea what is needed to unlock these “scrambled” relays, it would be of help… I didn’t shoot the structure also. No. That would have probably ignited a self-destruction relay… I tried get info from the Sansha Support structures-scramblers and got nothing in return… Zero info… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/c/1/8c18174af9e265d9c3680fa6896a1fd438d20ad2.jpeg "WIGHTSTORM HS DATA SITE - CRYO TECH KEYS YOUI LadS WHA? Strange Sansha Support Structure unHACKABLE?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G76io8gyWuQ) Ash did this video some day ago talking about some of this stuff but the video itself needs to be decrypted… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/d/8/ed857f93726de00b6d239fa5f754874056a836ce.jpeg "Hunting the LADS - Winter Nexus YC127 Day One - EVE Universe Show YC127.12.09") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW2I33GmrnQ) On the Eve Winter Nexus Patch notes it doesn’t tell much about these “Verity Cryo …” ![Screenshot 2025-12-11 at 22.34.59](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/5/8/2583772f03cdad214be012dad7cc050cc54038ca.jpeg) Hacking the “Verity Cryo crate” gives some random Cryo items, very valuable on the market… All of them comes with different names… No “keys” from those crates… I opened my gifted one and bought four more, and got no “keys” in the process… So… I have no idea what to expect from the Yoiul LADs… I guess I’ll have to go after them in the combat sites to scan down… but even so, I have no idea what these Keys are supposed to look like and what to look for on the market respectively… ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847/2 "2025-12-11T21:47:53Z")
Examining Ashterotu vid. he killed a LAD and the loot is exactly like the Item I got from the Verity Cryo Crate… Those “keys” goes for sale for 30Mil rn in Jita… are we supposed to “drop” these inside the Sansha “scrambler” support structure to unlock the second relay??? If so, that sounds a tiny bit expansive way of unlocking a Data relay… the first relay drop was worth just over TWO Mil… 30 Mil for a Key??? And all comes with different names… Nullifier is only one… I got three different names from my hacking those… I all put into sale as I didn’t know what to do with them… ![Screenshot 2025-12-11 at 22.43.12](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/8/b/f8b5ce4f30d99cac144d3a3f488db06336fc46b7.jpeg) Here a four different kind of examples of these supposed “keys”… How do we know which is the right one for the right “Support Structure” (the Relay scrambler)… ![Screenshot 2025-12-11 at 22.51.58](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/e/8/0e8f3006210915b88f6f2b41d166dcbdbc9b4a1c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847/3 "2025-12-11T23:50:53Z")
OK, I tried put the Cryo Key inside another Sansha Support Projector from another DATA site… It didn’t work… BUG or wrong KEY??? A LADS appeared for a moment outside Osmon SOE station and got instablapped by campers there… I was tempted to go take a look at the loot inside…but no… Suicide was not on my today list… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/c/1/8c18174af9e265d9c3680fa6896a1fd438d20ad2.jpeg "WINTER NEXUS: Scrambled Relay - Verity Cryo Keys - Part2 - BUG or wrong Keys???") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfzzr0mvhL0) ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847/4 "2025-12-12T00:18:41Z")
Credit goes where credit is due.. Ash succesfully unlocked the Scrambled Relay with one of those… The “Eliminator” variant… So apparently I used a veriant that didn’t work but it could work elsewhere…??? How many of these keys there are??? At least now I know what shall I be looking for… or was MY site bugged and it should have worked anyway? Anyway if the Loot was less than the value of the Key… meh… is it still worth?? For the LP only?? ![Screenshot 2025-12-12 at 01.13.29](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/4/7/f475fe93c5498150739464beeaf40f67ce892e79.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847/5 "2025-12-12T00:58:36Z")
Bought those in Jita for close to 4 Mil Each to try the theory. . I use it successfully this time the scrambled Relay. opened. Got 1.5Mil of Loot from both DATA relays - NET LOSS of 1.5Mil… I thought I could take it back at one point, but it said it didn’t belongs to me… Ash got an 8Mil Loot but probably was in a low.sec system? Idk.. Maybe next time I’ll get luckier… Someone loss, is someone else gain… ![Screenshot 2025-12-12 at 01.52.05](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/7/6/876d759a265e41f0dc2f7e8eef66f1645ed5687c.jpeg) Also I notice the Cargo Scanner do not work on the scrambled Relay. Is it normal??? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847/6 "2025-12-12T02:07:17Z")
Gratz on figuring out how to do it… There’s 13 different Yoiul Lads, random chance of them to drop loot containing the Verity Cryo Tech (key)… Loot is random… There’s 3 different types of those Verity keys made for each type of site, Combat, Mining and Hacking for a total of 9 different keys… The item info states where the Verity key can be used… I used one yesterday in Hacking, placed it in the relay which spawned another node to hack.. And yes, once the key is placed inside you can’t remove it… Personally I would just kill Yoiul Lads for those keys instead of buying them from the Market.. If you’re only doing Hacking sites, just quick sell the other keys… ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847/7 "2025-12-12T13:53:48Z")
The point is they are all identical to one another… I used one worth 32mil which looked exactly like the Eminent kind worth 10K isk… There’s no telling the difference or which is a Key and which is not… And hacking the scrambled relay that requires the key gives the same if not less Loot than the unscrambled Relay… the incentive is also not there to justify using it as you say… just sell them… to whom??? Ppl like me that is “\_\_\_” enough to try them??? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847/8 "2025-12-12T14:00:17Z")
Yeah, they all look alike and they’re all keys, they’re just made for different sites.. The info box of each type states at the bottom where it can be used… While scanning for Hacking sites, I also scan for the Yoiul Lads… So far I’ve got 6 keys, 1 for Hacking site which I used, 1 for Mining site and the rest are for Combat site… Ones that I won’t use I’ll do a quick sell on Market buy orders.. ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847/9 "2025-12-12T14:05:54Z")
So you need to own all 32 of them or know what are they called in advance to prepare for the random site you’re gonna scan down each time… The Reverse is not true also. The “Doors” do not have any indication on what kind of key should be used… Zbikoki hacking Key at least has “Key” in the name ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847/10 "2025-12-12T14:25:06Z")
Each key has info stating where it can be used… The sites all have different names for where they’re located… High Sec Wightstorm Forward Base - combat Wightstorm Comms Relay - hacking Fading Volatile Ice Field - mining Low Sec Wightstorm Muster Point - combat Wightstorm Strategic Node - hacking Fresh Volatile Ice Field - mining Null Sec Wightstorm Transit Site - combat Wightstorm Crypto Facility - hacking Friable Volatile Ice Field - mining > [@Queotzcatl](#): > > So you need to own all 32 of them or know what are they called in advance to prepare for the random site you’re gonna scan down each time… You only need the keys for the sites and system security level that you’re doing… For example if you’re only doing hacking sites in Low Sec space, then all you need is the key for Wightstorm Strategic Node… I’m not in-game so I don’t know the name of each key but the info box will state where that key can be used… ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847/11 "2025-12-12T17:11:03Z")
If you just show info on the things they all tell you exactly where they go. It’s not a puzzle, there’s nothing to figure out here. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/3/2/b32970bd10df17b1cbdfa2ac244a13bb09c99b66.png) ---
**Author:** ![Elathy\_Maricadie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elathy_maricadie/32/379496_2.png) [@Elathy\_Maricadie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elathy_Maricadie)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847/12 "2025-12-13T00:08:00Z")
Event keys dropped by Yoiul LADs: #### Mining Sites Fading Volatile Ice Field - **Cryograph Diffractor** [HS] Fresh Volatile Ice Field - **Cryograph Resolver** [LS] Friable Volatile Ice Field - **Cryograph Exactor** [NS] #### Hacking Sites Wightstorm Comms Relay - **Cryostatic Estimator** [HS] Wightstorm Strategic Node - **Cryostatic Nullifier** [LS] Wightstorm Crypto Facility - **Cryostatic Suppressor** [NS] #### Combat Sites Wightstorm Forward Base - **Cryostorm Clarifier** [HS] Wightstorm Muster Point - **Cryostorm Reconciler** [LS] Wightstorm Transit Site - **Cryostorm Mapper** [NS] ---
**Author:** ![Anzore\_Pours\_Thiesant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anzore_pours_thiesant/32/485155_2.png) [@Anzore\_Pours\_Thiesant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anzore_Pours_Thiesant)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2025, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847/13 "2025-12-18T06:00:44Z")
Do you get more event points for doing the Wightstorm Crypto Facility’s bonus data relay? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847/14 "2025-12-18T14:38:00Z")
No event points for hacking the bonus relay, just gives more loot… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2026, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scrambled-relay-winter-nexus-data-site-how-to-unlock-it-possible-bug/502847/15 "2026-03-18T14:38:26Z")
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