# Season's Greetings from Team Talos dev blog discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [December 24, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163 "2019-12-24T16:20:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Diarmait\_Hannigan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diarmait_hannigan/32/278544_2.png) [@Diarmait\_Hannigan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diarmait_Hannigan)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/84 "2019-12-25T05:26:26Z")
delve, the dont cloaky camp delve, well, maybe they do, all i see is supers when i go there ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/85 "2019-12-25T05:33:54Z")
> [@Algathas](#): > > I agree. I would love to see a permanent version of the holiday filaments. I just want to be able to craft a full set of all 8 (well, 9 including Rudolph) reindeer filaments into a little lore item (maybe a little santa sleigh being pulled by Triglavian reindeer, which is what the pictures on the filaments appear to show… red glowy reindeer triangle-face/antlers outlines)… OMG SHIELD SLAVES HYPE! ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/86 "2019-12-25T05:34:35Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > And please stop looking at nerfing the Muninn, it’s fine where it’s at. Instead of doing that, how about you start looking at buffing the other Heavy Assault Cruisers. THIS. PLEASE. > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Sooo, more ship and module updates with a return back to Module Tiericide again. Hopefully that doesn’t nerf my ship fits too much… and that, too! ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/87 "2019-12-25T05:43:31Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > 1. **Challenge the Core of EVE** and provide **compelling content for veteran players**. > 2. **Ensure there is always something to look forward to** through a rapid release cadence which provides **new content** or changes every two weeks. > > The team failed at both. You guys need to try again. Eh, did you read the blog? Maybe you didn’t like all the content they added in those changes over Oct/Nov/Dec, but there were definitely many changes. Of their changes, my fave was the BS/BC warp speed buff… the blog says cruisers, too, but I thought it was just BS/BC? Interesting. Maybe the original devblog was misleading. ANYway… speaking as someone who enjoys a lot of forms of highsec PVE (as well as some WH and PVP action, too)… the main forms of content Team Talos should consider adding for those like me includes: - New L4 missions. - More Triglavian content. - Standings mean something again like back when you needed them for POS in HS, for jump clones, etc. and not just for unlocking more missions and for trade hub tax/fee reduction. - bring back seasonal event sites! We miss the Blood Raider event we had 4 straight Halloweens until this past one. We miss the Gureasters event we had for 2 Easters. We miss the Angel event we had for 2 Valentine’s Days (yes, even the last one from Feb 2018 that was… probably one of the worst events… was still better than NO EVENTS). - Dailies are no substitute for the above events - If you don’t want to make event sites again that are only used for 14 days at a time, then please either consider releasing the original Blood Raider (or the 2nd year, the one with Cold Iron skins, that was the best IMO) every Halloween… then you don’t have to create new dungeons!.. OR… give us a 2nd Abyssal event. In August 2018 we got to earn points towards skill accelerators and Damavik/Vedmak/Leshak skins by running abyssal filaments and there was no need for event sites: the abyss was our event site that event! - in short, more EVENTS. With sites. Not just tasks/dailies. - ??? - PROFIT! > [@Nomistrav](#): > > Please look into updating POCOs while looking at Structure balance. Taking these things down is a super pain in the ass on account of the fact your enemy can just throw a gantry down instantly, never upgrade it, and lock out the entire planet until it’s destroyed… To just rinse and repeat. > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I’m really hoping they have a good look at the state of PI and POCOs at some point in the near future. It’s not particularly good gampeplay all round. They’ll probably never do it, but I wish you could designate one of your toons/alts to be the collector for all your various toons’ PI at the POCOs, but… yeah, it would enable massive 20, 40, 60 toon PI spam, I know. But for us “doing it on only 3 or 5 or whatever” type peops, it sure would be nice and not that abused… (wink) ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/88 "2019-12-25T06:30:33Z")
> [@Sylvia\_Kildare](#): > > - Standings mean something again like back when you needed them for POS in HS, for jump clones, etc. and not just for unlocking more missions and for trade hub tax/fee reduction. > - bring back seasonal event sites! We miss the Blood Raider event we had 4 straight Halloweens until this past one. We miss the Gureasters event we had for 2 Easters. We miss the Angel event we had for 2 Valentine’s Day (yes, even the last one from Feb 2018 that was… probably one of the worst events… was still better than NO EVENTS). > - Dailies are no substitute for the above events > - If you don’t want to make event sites again that are only used for 14 days at a time, then please either consider releasing the original Blood Raider (or the 2nd year, the one with Cold Iron skins, that was the best IMO) every Halloween… then you don’t have to create new dungeons!.. I agree 100%. Make standings mean something again. Also the same about events, most players looked forward with anticipation to the ones we had in the past. Lot’s of players gladly logged into the game to run them without having any Skill Point reward. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/89 "2019-12-25T08:20:27Z")
I don’t know if Team Talos had any hand in the recent nerfing on conduit pay out or the over all nerfing of high sec isk per hour but it SUCKS! I used to be able to make an ok living in High Sec running missions or just doing combat sites if I wasn’t playing long. The isk per hour for combat anoms is almost negative isk, the DED sites are joke of what they used to be, the mission pay out are garbage and the nerfing of bounties over all in high sec sucks. If CCP does not want player to make isk in high sec or only make isk from High Sec markets tell me! Not everyone want to live or play in null or low sec. I haven’t been impressed by anything done in game and I wonder if any of the changes are healthy for the game. The little buff to the Minmatar missile boats was nice but since the damage resistance of the NPC was increased it doesn’t matter much. The changes that were released this year, have me wondering if I even want to continue to play this game. It definitely make me wonder if CCP even know what is going on in Eve!? Also melting the snowballs was a RICHARD move!!! ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/90 "2019-12-25T08:20:46Z")
> [@Stephan\_X\_Janau](#): > > But yeah. present your ideas . What if I don’t? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/91 "2019-12-25T08:21:52Z")
> [@Death4me](#): > > I unsubbed Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/92 "2019-12-25T08:22:58Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > I’m not logging in or subbing Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/93 "2019-12-25T08:26:48Z")
Don’t be fooled, @Orca_Platypus is one of those drama queens who will always threaten this, but never actually go through with it. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/94 "2019-12-25T08:54:15Z")
> [@Ash\_Beldrulf](#): > > Also melting the snowballs was a RICHARD move!!! Melting the snowballs wasn’t the RICHARD move, it was implementing the exchange ratio of 10 melted snowballs for 1 new snowball. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/95 "2019-12-25T11:28:23Z")
First of all, everyone should ask CCP what they mean by content, and what content they are considering To avoid confusion. Actually, thats a good idea to make poll, first asking players what they want most… 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Bitfrombehind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bitfrombehind/32/376378_2.png) [@Bitfrombehind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bitfrombehind)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/96 "2019-12-25T12:47:12Z")
**Big Asteroids _Made_ Null For Me.** As a high-sec player for two years, I had never experienced sov null in the flesh. Once I made the first trip down there, I was shocked. Not by the size of the Keepstars, nor the size of the Capital ships, but by the Spod. Huge, green sparkly chunks sitting there, waiting to by gobbled up like sweet exotic fruit. Now I head out, and my rorqual dwarfs the rocks, zipping around back and forth from a ping as I am quickly forced to labour over ochre for 80mil/hr. I make 200m/hr in HS incursions. So why keep multiboxing in null? Why keep subbing more than one account? ---
**Author:** ![Dotar\_Sojat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dotar_sojat/32/169344_2.png) [@Dotar\_Sojat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dotar_Sojat)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/97 "2019-12-25T14:19:44Z")
I passed out the skill points to my secondary characters, gave the boosters to my mains and trashed literally EVERYTHING else. The skins looked like some hello kitty anime garbage btw and I never had any intention of lobbing snowballs at anything. Stop giving things away, it only feeds the lazy. I’m with @Nicolai_Serkanner on pretty much everything he said. Note to devs: focus on the stability of the game itself. If you want to develop something, develop a stable client for Linux/Ubuntu. BTW Merry Christmas is the term I’m looking for today, not seasons greetings, what does that even mean? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/98 "2019-12-25T19:06:32Z")
> [@Bitfrombehind](#): > > So why keep multiboxing in null? Why keep subbing more than one account? Complaints like this is EXACTLY the goal and means that the change was successful. Get out of here with your multiboxed Rorquals. Now you need to put in _some_ amount of work to make your isk instead of leaving a dozen rorquals to afk munch on rocks for literal hours. ---
**Author:** ![Merovee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merovee/32/167629_2.png) [@Merovee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merovee)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/99 "2019-12-25T21:10:45Z")
Merry Christmas to all the CCP staff and their families. May the Game and fellowship continue to grow stronger in the new year. 🙂 Merovee, Rhed and Sharon Anne ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/100 "2019-12-25T23:47:32Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > Hahahaha … idiot. I love you, man! 😃 Without me around, you’re the last guy who calls the spades spades. 😃 Merry Christmas! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/101 "2019-12-25T23:51:50Z")
The isk/effort ratio did null for you. You now complain about being forced to move your self entitled, lazy ass to a different spot, so why don’t you just ■■■■ off entirely and not waste time logging in. #FuckFarmers edit: your attempt of censorship gets you nowhere. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/102 "2019-12-26T02:01:10Z")
Yeah because more crappy AI running around is exactly what the game needs. Why fight other players when CCP can send out endless amounts of NPC’s to keep the masses busy - It’s not like PVP is/was a good aspect of the game anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seasons-greetings-from-team-talos-dev-blog-discussion/208163/103 "2019-12-26T08:54:03Z")
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