# Sec status jurisdiction (Not faction standing

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Tags:** high-sec, pvp\
**Created:** [October 3, 2021, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710 "2021-10-03T13:39:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/81 "2021-10-04T12:42:51Z")

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No, Im asking you where I mentioned an item.

If you could quote that then Ill know what you are talking about.

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**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/82 "2021-10-04T12:46:38Z")

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Creating op deltarune oc’s.

You stated this further back and.i had to google it. Pretty specific really XD

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**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/83 "2021-10-04T12:50:20Z")

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> [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](#):
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> Another one to ignore.

> [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](#):
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> The irony of a forum warrior XD

Ah, so predicable. They always have a follow up after saying that are going to ignore me.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/84 "2021-10-04T12:51:50Z")

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Oh I see.

You are pretending you dont know what an OC is. Thats cute.

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**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/85 "2021-10-04T12:53:34Z")

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No i don’t but the fact you think im dishonest says a lot about yourself.

Like with how in ED Sec status only affects stations. Then you.change your mind and it doesn’t but you can outrun the police there? which one was it? XD

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**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/86 "2021-10-04T13:01:46Z")

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> [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](#):
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> So i just checked out deltarune OC’s. My 14 year old plays that XD

The problem with our society. Parents with so little interest in what their kids are consuming : /

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/87 "2021-10-04T13:02:02Z")

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> [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](#):
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> you think im dishonest

No, I know you are. You gave it away a little while back.

> [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](#):
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> Like with how in ED Sec status only affects stations. Then you.change your mind and it doesn’t but you can outrun the police there?

Those arent mutually exclusive conditions.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/88 "2021-10-04T13:02:43Z")

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And suggest random forum people get added to their child’s contact list. Thats sick.

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**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/89 "2021-10-04T13:03:58Z")

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> [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](#):
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> On the forums people just like to argue against pretty much anything.

> [@Fleet friendly fire toggle](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-friendly-fire-toggle/330531/3):
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> Indeed. Even with an opt-in notification with a bright yellow warning warning notification that says, “CAUTION: FC has turned friendly fire on. Opt-in to accept friendly fire,” some folks are still going to click through the message. Oh well grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes

Not really

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/90 "2021-10-04T13:06:59Z")

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CONCORD  
Faction Police  
Faction Navy

3 different law enforcement official groups in Empire space. You break a law, concord will get you.

If your sec status gets too low, ANY Faction POLICE will come after you, but you can avoid them or fight them.

Faction NAVY only cares about the faction standing with that particular Faction.

Consequences for your actions. You wanna do something evil against other players, you shouldn’t be safe from Leo going from caldari to amarr.

Think of RL federal law, you can’t leave U.S. and be totally safe in another country. Sooner or later, your actions have to catch up to you.

If you want to be safe, go to space that has no laws (null or wh)

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**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/91 "2021-10-04T13:13:29Z")

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> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#):
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> Think of RL federal law, you can’t leave U.S. and be totally safe in another country.

Did you mean you can’t leave a state and be safe in another state or did you mean international law.

Because without extradition treaties you can actually be relatively safe.

And yes this only only because this is a more interesting conversation than going in circles with the op

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/92 "2021-10-04T13:14:47Z")

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I was going to say state to state, but recently the wiki leaks dude was arrested and Snowden isn’t totally safe either.

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**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/93 "2021-10-04T13:16:55Z")

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O.o when was this last I heard about a year ago we were still trying to extradite him.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/94 "2021-10-04T13:24:03Z")

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He’s not in U.S. custody but he is inprisoned  
Criminal status: Imprisoned in [HMP Belmarsh](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMP_Belmarsh)  
reason for being blocked from extradition: The British judge ruled in January that _Assange_ was likely to kill himself if held under harsh U.S. prison conditions.

anyway, i digress and made my point to the OP about the sec status vs fac standing situation…

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**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/96 "2021-10-04T13:30:20Z")

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Oh I read your post wrong I was thinking of snowden.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/97 "2021-10-04T13:30:30Z")

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its all good

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**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/98 "2021-10-04T15:22:31Z")

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You’ve clearly never parented a teenager XD

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**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/99 "2021-10-04T15:23:31Z")

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I wasn’t serious. Im not surprised I needed to point that out to you XD

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**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/100 "2021-10-04T15:24:52Z")

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No you don’t. Im not dishonest.

Look at you trying to recover with “They are not mutually exclusive” You flat out disagreed XD

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**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sec-status-jurisdiction-not-faction-standing/330710/101 "2021-10-04T15:26:27Z")

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Raised my brother my sister and my two sons.

It’s not hard to take 30 minutes and check in on what games they are playing or what movies they are watching.

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