# Secrets Of The Abyss - Event Feedback Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official, live-event\ **Created:** [August 21, 2018, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548 "2018-08-21T09:45:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Bort\_Malice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bort_malice/32/157522_2.png) [@Bort\_Malice](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bort_Malice)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/464 "2018-09-04T10:34:10Z")
I was advised Id need a faction fit set up, and I couldnt afford it. To be fair I could barely afford to replace the ship I was using until Id finished the event, so Id rather play it safe and end quids in. Edit: I’d have also had to go out of my way to buy a module of a type I didn’t have available so just ran what I could without it. ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_Moe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fluffy_moe/32/11132_2.png) [@Fluffy\_Moe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fluffy_Moe)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/465 "2018-09-04T11:23:50Z")
So… as this fairly horrible event ends, on my unstuck character … ![ent1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/5/15a1176aceda9d43971fa1f176f16dd9d1064307.jpeg) yea … I also got into building a lot of Triglavian stuff, and there are really big, huge problems with this whole abyss stuff, not just from the abyss sites themselves, from economy, building, sales, etc. It is not good. I farmed a ton of building mats and then bought 10x more then I farmed, even running disgustingly huge amount of sites. Its bad. And the screenshot above doesn’t include my other 3 characters, between them add maybe another 2k points to it. Though 2 are super lowbie, tier 1 and 2 and got completely stuck. The event itself was overall pretty horrible. Bad UI, jumping buttons that you have to click while **_inside_** the abyss where it is extremely not advisable to do so. Cache things opening up some sort of crystals that no one knows what they’re for, or if they’ll ever have a use. I’m hoarding a whole bunch of them on one of my alts in a station container just in case, but am also not holding my breath for them becoming useful. No Agency boosters !!! W T F kinda agency event is that ! ? ! ? ! ? ! ? Seriously. You guys could have implimented at least some of them like every 100 points or so even the lowbie ones into the reward point track. But nothing. Limited accelerators. There should have been more of the 24 hour (baseline) accelerators, a lot more. Also, You said you were testing something, but didn’t tell us what it is that you were testing, I hope you learned something and it actually yields some decent results. I learned some good stuff, that is to go back to regular stuff once am done building my current batch of stuff and not to bother with it again unless I see some seriously big and positive changes. Really hope the next event will be better, return it to regular events, kill some stuff, get some boosters / accelerators, fight over some lootboxes, farm a bit, chill and enjoy. This one is just bad and too stressful all the way around. ---
**Author:** ![Adele\_d\_Etoiles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adele_d_etoiles/32/81333_2.png) [@Adele\_d\_Etoiles](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adele_d_Etoiles)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/466 "2018-09-04T18:43:17Z")
So is the suspect timer back in place for tier 4/5? ---
**Author:** ![Ildrara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ildrara/32/56659_2.png) [@Ildrara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ildrara)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/467 "2018-09-04T19:40:32Z")
> **[Abyssal Deadspace Testing – Temporary Disabling Of Tier 4 & 5 Suspect Flags |...](https://www.eveonline.com/article/pd3nt4/abyssal-deadspace-testing-temporary-disabling-of-tier-4-and-5-suspect-flags)** > > We'll be making some temporary changes to the suspect flagging on high tier abyssal deadspace runs with the August release. Check out this news item for more information. “We are currently in the process of running several tests on abyssal deadspace over the course of the **next couple of months**.” - CCP ---
**Author:** ![Raw\_Matters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raw_matters/32/462866_2.png) [@Raw\_Matters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raw_Matters)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/468 "2018-09-06T21:03:15Z")
> [@Ildrara](#): > > Some people are smart enough to prepare for the worst. Like I told that other nooblet. I do T5s with no problems. If you had bothered to read the rest of my post you’d realized that I was talking about the bad difficulty distribution. ---
**Author:** ![Ildrara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ildrara/32/56659_2.png) [@Ildrara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ildrara)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/469 "2018-09-07T01:39:59Z")
> [@Raw\_Matters](#): > > If you had bothered to read the rest of my post you’d realized that I was talking about the bad difficulty distribution. If you had bothered to read my post you’d realize that I have no problems with “difficulty distribution” because I prepare for the worst a T5 has to offer. I still have a 100% completion rate. ---
**Author:** ![Raw\_Matters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raw_matters/32/462866_2.png) [@Raw\_Matters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raw_Matters)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/470 "2018-09-07T18:04:00Z")
> [@Ildrara](#): > > I prepare for the worst a T5 has to offer. I still have a 100% completion rate. Great for you. How does that help anyone else? How does that bring back anyone who rage-quitted after loosing a 2b ship in a L1 dark? ---
**Author:** ![Ildrara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ildrara/32/56659_2.png) [@Ildrara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ildrara)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/471 "2018-09-08T02:08:36Z")
> [@Raw\_Matters](#): > > Great for you. How does that help anyone else? There is an event channel in game and an abyss channel. My fits have been linked dozens of times and the people using them have had the same success rate. Are you saying it is somehow my fault that I didn’t hunt down each person that used a dumb fit? Or is it somehow my fault that sore losers refuse to use the provided Intel channels? > [@Raw\_Matters](#): > > loosing Tighten it instead. ---
**Author:** ![Raw\_Matters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raw_matters/32/462866_2.png) [@Raw\_Matters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raw_Matters)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/472 "2018-09-08T11:37:44Z")
> [@Ildrara](#): > > There is an event channel in game and an abyss channel You are fixing the symptoms, not the issue. Almost every game is made using a steadily ramping up difficulty, because people need to learn the game first, get better, and finally figure out the little details. And CCP is like “Lol, screw that, we make it random!” I could write you a long essay on why random is bad, but the short version: people hate it, people quite the game because of it, less players = less fun for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Ildrara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ildrara/32/56659_2.png) [@Ildrara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ildrara)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/473 "2018-09-08T14:51:12Z")
> [@Raw\_Matters](#): > > people hate it, people quite the game because of it, I like it. Did you mean “quit”? ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/474 "2018-09-10T19:57:12Z")
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**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/475 "2018-09-11T13:05:00Z")
> [@Nathaniel\_Garros](#): > > Sorry what but what does MTE stand for? MTE = my thoughts exactly Well, it’s possible that running a tier 3 on all 3 accounts isn’t what let me get points again for a tier 1 the next day and points + accel for running a tier 2 the next day. But that’s awfully coincidental if so. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/476 "2018-09-11T13:07:57Z")
> [@Raw\_Matters](#): > > Great for you. How does that help anyone else? How does that bring back anyone who rage-quitted after loosing a 2b ship in a L1 dark? That would be somewhat impressive (in a not-so-good way). Most of the people I hear have lost ships in the Abyss are more like people trying to run a 400-500 mil ISK Gila in a tier 3 instead of pimping out a fit that works fine for tier 1/tier 2 but maybe can’t handle tier 3/tier 4, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ryan_b_thiesant/32/293156_2.png) [@Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ryan_B_Thiesant)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/477 "2018-09-11T19:03:37Z")
I didn’t like this event. ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_Moe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fluffy_moe/32/11132_2.png) [@Fluffy\_Moe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fluffy_Moe)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/478 "2018-09-11T22:21:36Z")
> [@Ildrara](#): > > I like it. Did you mean “quit”? There are a few odd “special snowflakes” everywhere in everything in life, not just here in this particular content. However, if something was intended to be used by a wide group of people but ends up being used only by the special snowflakes, it is a design failure. Also, I have read a lot of your posts, I also watched many videos, not yours, but people making similar claims, read a lot of stuff on various corp forums, etc. and paid particular attention to the T4, T5 deathspawns and how they handle them and the yall have 1 single thing in common. All those videos, etc. do not show a single successfull deathspawn handling. They post plenty of theories on how it can be done, but then when it comes to the deed its only same old easy peezy crap that no one has problems to begin with. Any of the problem areas are not shown. ---
**Author:** ![Ildrara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ildrara/32/56659_2.png) [@Ildrara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ildrara)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/479 "2018-09-11T23:52:56Z")
> [@Fluffy\_Moe](#): > > All those videos, etc. do not show a single successfull deathspawn handling. Define deathspawn. I have never seen Leshaks and Vedmaks in the same room at the same time and I have been playing in the Abyss since prerelease. It sounds like you’re a special snowflake lying about some “deathspawn” to make it seem worst than it is. Starving Leshaks don’t bother me because I fit for neuts and I only go in with ships that are immune to the neuts. Only a dummy would attempt T5s with poor cap stability. Is that what you did? That sounds likely. You did lie about the “deathspawn” after all. The hardest room for me is renewing Leshaks because they rep a lot more than any other type. No room takes me longer than 6 minutes. Like I already stated, I fit for the worst spawn. Now go to tumblr and whine about the snowflakes you lying ■■■■■. And is it quite or quit? ---
**Author:** ![Antwan\_Enchalupen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/antwan_enchalupen/32/95174_2.png) [@Antwan\_Enchalupen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Antwan_Enchalupen)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/480 "2018-09-12T11:51:04Z")
So I just got a survey about this event. All it did was ask me to rate what I liked best about the event over and over again. It didn’t have any place to freeform type concerns or mention anything about the massive brokenness and problems of the event. What is the point of a totally one-sided survey? ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/481 "2018-09-13T17:20:57Z")
> [@Antwan\_Enchalupen](#): > > What is the point of a totally one-sided survey? To prove to the policy makers that they are right. ---
**Author:** ![Kerberoz\_Shikkoken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kerberoz_shikkoken/32/345383_2.png) [@Kerberoz\_Shikkoken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kerberoz_Shikkoken)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/482 "2018-09-17T13:30:05Z")
Why did not the accelerator become available in the market and become expired? Who is wrong with the dates? ---
**Author:** ![lolie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lolie/32/97089_2.png) [@lolie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lolie)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548/483 "2018-09-17T19:07:27Z")
My ‘Hercules’ booster were supposed to expire next DT … can’t sale it on the market but at least I can still use it. I was hoping to sell 1 or 2 on the last day. 😅 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548.md?page=23) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/secrets-of-the-abyss-event-feedback-thread/99548.md?page=25)