# Security status effects tethering

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [October 28, 2022, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237 "2022-10-28T21:32:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shilliam\_Watner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shilliam_watner/32/358077_2.png) [@Shilliam\_Watner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shilliam_Watner)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1217 "2022-11-28T04:05:01Z")

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“It’s not a true sandbox without social consequences of actions.”

Not sure if you understand words or not, but stuff like no re-docking or tether is not a social consequence, it’s a non-social consequence. It is not something that is being done by players to other players.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1218 "2022-11-28T07:15:03Z")

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Just wanted to know how the new rules are effecting ganks and have you changed what you do in any way.

Please send me a detailed report of your setup now for example, have any of you moved to low sec and then fly to high to gank, please supply the entry system .

Have many of you just carried on as before and undock when you have a target, also if you miss a target and your at -10 how do you wait for a new target as you can’t dock.  
And any new way you are ganking, don’t forget times you gank and which sys.

This is just out of interest on how the game is changing and will not be used against you.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1219 "2022-11-28T07:47:18Z")

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> [@stefnia\_Freir](#):
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> _physically_ harmed.
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> But the point of griefers is not to harm physically.

ROFL. If getting blapped in a vidya game actually impacts your mental health do not _choose_ to play a game like EVE. Play Animal Crossing. No violence there 😃

And no, they don’t deserve consideration. Playing EVE is a choice. If can’t handle, don’t play.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1220 "2022-11-28T08:02:50Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> And no, they don’t deserve consideration. Playing EVE is a choice. If can’t handle, don’t play.

That’s the challenge I enjoy, learning how to survive the dangers

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1221 "2022-11-28T14:54:19Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> Play Animal Crossing. No violence there 😃

This isn’t quite true. My six-year-old daughter likes to hit one of the pink bunnies with a shovel. The bunny replies with something like: “how rude!”

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1222 "2022-11-28T17:21:38Z")

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Of course! It’s best hitting them with the net tbh.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1223 "2022-12-02T13:57:03Z")

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Lowsec had been empty in the systems I visit, sad that I even found a few systems to afk in.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1224 "2022-12-02T13:58:24Z")

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It’s pretty barren in low sec.

There’s a few hot systems. Mostly choke systems. But otherwise, pretty empty.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1225 "2022-12-02T14:01:58Z")

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The problem is not me, it is New Eden had forgotten how to be dangerous.

/AFk at Custom officers all the time and last week I even left my pc to go make coffee.

I would never ever do that under her rule in highsec!

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1226 "2022-12-02T14:09:32Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> The problem is not me, it is New Eden had forgotten how to be dangerous.

Yup.

And certain people advocating for the continuation of defanging the game.

One going so far as to say that being afk is “part” of the game. It’s really sad.

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**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1227 "2022-12-02T14:25:00Z")

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who says that and were do they go afk

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1228 "2022-12-02T14:27:10Z")

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When I wake up tomorrow I shall live stream lowsec afk mining just for your comment.

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**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1229 "2022-12-02T14:28:58Z")

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my Amish shall be very happy also I’m going to promate my channel then

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1230 "2022-12-02T14:40:21Z")

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Sargon knows my channel name, this is what happened to him when he tried to strwam snipe

 ![sargon](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/d/e/1de129013a524cc596bd1fd3aadd9469d667a5de.jpeg)  
The fact that he lost is something I want to bring up here.

**Tethering needs to change back** to how it was or more will fall to easy kills such as trying to gank Frostpacker!

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1231 "2022-12-02T15:43:33Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> I would never ever do that under her rule in highsec!

I take it you’re referring to Aiko…

Anyway, what does empty low sec systems have to do with high sec?

The only connection I can see is that instead of prowling around in low sec looking for kills, all the negative status criminals are ganking in high sec…

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1232 "2022-12-02T16:26:25Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> Lowsec had been empty in the systems I visit, sad that I even found a few systems to afk in.

I took a trip from 0.9 Vittenyn to highsec Solitude several times, which passes through two lots of lowsec…about 10 lowsec systems in all and there was literally nobody there in most of the lowsec systems.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1233 "2022-12-02T20:41:15Z")

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Not particularly, it could be referring to quite a number of female pilots.

ie; It was stated that Triglavian Collective pilot Zorya established gatecamps and roaming fleets.

> **[Zorya's Leshak | Ship](https://zkillboard.com/ship/52320/)**
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> Zorya's Leshak: 1,223 ships destroyed and 0 ships lost.

Zorya doesn’t hide in stations when it is not safe to undock and who is not scared to gank in lowsec.

Anyway, empty low sec systems will continue removing content away from Highsec Gankers.

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1234 "2022-12-03T09:09:21Z")

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I still undock with -10 directly from Jita as before. The nerfs simply forced me to gank rookie players as the inability to redock means that hunting capsules is now too time consuming, difficult and annoying. So I rather gank ventures which are plentiful and I don’t have to fly tens of minutes around to find some.

And when I do undock with a fit for capsules I am not picky anymore and shoot any I find even if it is of a new player. Previously I was checking killboard and age to see if it would be “worth” it. Now because I cannot tether and re-dock I have to kill the first I can if I don’t want to fly around highsec restlessly for hours.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1236 "2022-12-03T12:47:30Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> Lowsec hasn’t been “defanged” though.

As I said before,  
I’ll be more than happy to discuss topics with you with your main.

Until then, please stop spamming me with pings.

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1238 "2022-12-03T16:09:51Z")

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> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> I still undock with -10 directly from Jita as before. The nerfs simply forced me to gank rookie players as the inability to redock means that hunting capsules is now too time consuming, difficult and annoying. So I rather gank ventures which are plentiful and I don’t have to fly tens of minutes around to find some.

So what happens if your home is set to Jita and you self destruct your pod ? I mean, by definition you have to end up somewhere…or is such self destruct now not allowed for -10 status.

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