# Security status effects tethering **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 28, 2022, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237 "2022-10-28T21:32:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 63
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1282 "2022-12-11T19:50:15Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > I don’t think a single person has claimed that gankers are in every single system. Oh but they have. I responded only a week or two ago to someone claiming that gankers were everywhere. I recall when I was a noob, I used to think gankers were everywhere…it is an easy misconception for noobs to make. But _experience_ has taught me the extent of ganking in Eve is quite limited. Uedama, Isanamo, Abhazon, Jita…and a few surrounding systems…make up the bulk of Eve ganking. There are huge areas where a person can mine, for example, and never see a ganker. > [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > Just that they are common enough and target new players enough to have a negative impact on Oh…how convenient for your cause. No actual data supplied. _In fact_ the number of noobs ganked is small. I regularly see all the kills posted in the ganker channel…they are _mostly_ barges, higher value combat ships, haulers with expensive cargo, etc. But I realise you are not, and never have been, interested in actual facts. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1283 "2022-12-11T19:54:32Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Indeed, I am sure it is only my fearsome scarf that kept them at bay. For 6 hours 😃 The idol of Tom Baker is quite powerful, and the only thing that can stop the omnipresent ganker. It has been entrusted to you and you alone must use its power to thwart the deep rooted evil that has ensnared all of EvE, and its developers. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1284 "2022-12-11T20:02:58Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Oh…how convenient for your cause. I don’t understand why definotanalt is supporting the gankers now? They are in every high sec system and every new player and noob gets blown up by them. Perhaps it’s been corrupted by the so called FW it claims it’s been doing. PvP is so evil. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1285 "2022-12-11T20:24:38Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > PvP is so evil. It is ! So I’m gonna spend the rest of the day fighting Super Mutants, Gouls, Raiders, etc in Fallout 4. ‘Easy’ level is actually quite hard, so I’m gonna whine to Bethesda that Super Mutants _ought_ to be replaced with Teletubbies who hand out flowers. I mean…games gotta keep up with the times ! ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1286 "2022-12-12T04:04:32Z")
So has this security status anti-teathering mechanic done anything to slow down ganking? WhywasIganked is still as, or more busy (with killmail postings) than before the changes and Aiko is still blogging away. Asking for a friend. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1287 "2022-12-14T18:44:26Z")
Yes. As always with nerfs to ganking, some gankers simply came to the conclusion that this game is no longer worth it. Additionally, some of the gankers were F1 monkey alphas with single account, be it on purpose because they refused to pay for this game anymore or because they were new into this (not neccessarily new players) and was trying it when they perhaps were bored in nullsec/wh and majority of them quit as well instead of subbing (that account). So there are less gankers than before. So yes highsec is totally safe, time to autopilot with 20b+ cargo ecpander Freighters! ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1288 "2022-12-14T19:23:23Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > So has this security status anti-teathering mechanic done anything to slow down ganking? It will have removed a few gankers who were Alpha account only. And there _is_ a point to be made that someone with nothing but freebie accounts should not be ganking newer players who are paying for the game. Of course…_.we_ have no idea who is really even new, let alone who is paying. It’s not like people fly around with a big ’ I am a genuine 2 week old Omega noob’ above them. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1289 "2022-12-14T19:47:09Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > fly around with a big ’ I am a genuine 2 week old Omega noob’ above them. I would if I could, then use it lure folks into a false sense of security before doing the space pew pew to them. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1290 "2022-12-14T21:09:23Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > So has this security status anti-teathering mechanic done anything to slow down ganking? Looking at Safety. as one of the most active groups, the nerfs appear to have roughly halved (not quite, but close) their daily kill rate in highsec: ![safety](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/b/e/0bea1b34f56215eb7d97dd41c802d036bf41520a.png) Blue line is the release of the changes. Lines added manually as I’m a numpty, but they are in the right places. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1291 "2022-12-14T21:33:08Z")
Thanks scipio! It’s nice to have a graphic for the data. Does look like the recent changes have had an effect. Personally, I think all structures should be removed from high sec. But that’s me. ---
**Author:** ![Shilliam\_Watner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shilliam_watner/32/358077_2.png) [@Shilliam\_Watner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shilliam_Watner)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1292 "2022-12-14T23:07:28Z")
> [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](#): > > The changes are not excellent. The folks who were still suicide ganking in 2022 fit into two basic categories: > > 1. People who repaired their security status with tags. They are unaffected by the changes. > 2. People who have been ganking as -10 characters for years and have already adapted to a whole plethora of nerfs to their playstyle. These folks are inconvenienced by the changes, but are already accustomed to adapting to inconveniences and will take this one in stride as well. They are unlikely to slow down their ganking. What’s wrong with someone rolling with the punches, and showing persistence and adaptation, in spite of artificial, arbitrary developer-created adversity? You should appreciate their dedication to their playstyle. FYI, I’d have 0 ganks these last couple months, if people simply watched local and warped out when I jump into system. But no, we need increasingly complex and convoluted “solutions” to protect people who can’t be bothered to watch their screen while they play. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1293 "2022-12-21T17:54:07Z")
I somehow feel this is not the main reason regarding Safety killcounts. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1294 "2022-12-22T02:56:19Z")
You feel, or you think? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1295 "2022-12-22T06:58:10Z")
I feel as the context comes from reliable sources! If I were thinking then it would be crazy to think about that Safety Alliance! ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1296 "2022-12-22T08:39:26Z")
Which alliance ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1297 "2022-12-22T23:46:16Z")
Can we ask **Asher Elias**? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/security-status-effects-tethering/382237/1298 "2023-03-22T23:46:27Z")
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