# Seperate gamemodes for PVP and PVE **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [June 3, 2024, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201 "2024-06-03T14:22:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201/41 "2024-06-03T16:03:12Z")
You’re “voicing ideas” of a game you don’t play and don’t understand. That’s like someone having “design ideas” about chess, while never having played it, about how there should be 4 grids on the board where you can’t have a piece taken away. And in doing so mess up the game for everyone else. Go play a game that has this or is single player in the first place, or play EVE and accept it for what it is. Those are your two options. And with that I think we’ve wasted enough effort and attention on someone who (by their own words) doesn’t stick around anyway. This is a you problem, stop making your own problems other people’s problems. ---
**Author:** ![crandulas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/crandulas/32/422652_2.png) [@crandulas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/crandulas)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201/42 "2024-06-03T16:04:55Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > The only thing you lose if you get podded are your implants. If you get podded in high sec or low sec, the ganker takes a fairly significant security status hit. thats the other thing i dont quite understand thats changed. the station that i was using when i was flying my ship in and out to pop rats. they had the orange suspect mark on their ship and the system had like 33 people in it. all with security status well above 3.0 and the suspect ship only had -0.3 and that didnt change over the week i saw him / her hanging out there. but they have to be ganking because the number of blue what i think where concorde ships flying around indicated to me there where player attacked ships. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201/43 "2024-06-03T16:50:16Z")
Unless it’s Uedama, gankers don’t tend to hang out in the systems they actually gank in, at least not in high sec. The ship that is just hanging around outside of the station is most likely a spotter/scanner alt. ---
**Author:** ![crandulas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/crandulas/32/422652_2.png) [@crandulas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/crandulas)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201/44 "2024-06-03T16:55:12Z")
The flagged ship did appear to be scanning ships coming and going. so what does this scanning usually look for? are they checking cargo to find targets for their main account? if so why isn’t their main account visible? from memory the way that the local chat used to be it was once possible to see players who have recently engaged with a red mark against them. this doesnt seem possible anymore ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201/45 "2024-06-03T16:55:18Z")
You are currently in a 0.5 high-sec system that is right next door to a low-sec system. So yes, there are going to be gankers passing through there, along with low-sec PvP’ers. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201/46 "2024-06-03T16:57:24Z")
If they have a yellow skull next to their name, that simply means they have a security status less than zero. If they have a yellow flashing skull, that means they are a suspect, and anyone can attack them freely for 15 minutes. If they have a red skull, that means they have a security status less than -5. If they are flashing red, that means they just ganked someone. And yes, they are scanning your cargo and ship fit to see if you are a viable target. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201/47 "2024-06-03T17:01:44Z")
> [@crandulas](#): > > if so why isn’t their main account visible? Wouldn’t make much sense to have alts if they could be traced back to your main account. ---
**Author:** ![crandulas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/crandulas/32/422652_2.png) [@crandulas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/crandulas)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201/48 "2024-06-03T17:05:24Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > Wouldn’t make much sense to have alts if they could be traced back to your main account. no i mean in the overview. they would be connecting to the main and alt account at the same time wouldn’t they? that being a luxury that i simply dont have anymore on my machine because you can only have one instance open through steam from my understanding using linux. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201/49 "2024-06-03T17:06:25Z")
Yeah, don’t play EVE on Steam. Use the actual launcher. And you can have as many Omega accounts open at the same time as you have the computing power for. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201/50 "2024-06-03T19:34:54Z")
> [@crandulas](#): > > I have come and gone from the eve game many times. > > when i have come back usually within a week i leave again because the constant pvp makes the game lack fun when i play. Maybe you’re not ready to play EvE Online, which is an open pvp game - that’s why it works ? > [@crandulas](#): > > Each time there is a re balance of the game for example ice fields now being in low sec Use the Agency. Plenty of ice harvesting in highsec. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201/51 "2024-06-03T19:40:02Z")
Be aware of the space you are in, your surroundings, and don’t AFK. It’s that simple. On my main mission running toon, I’ve only lost a single ship in 7 years. And it was purely my fault. I took a phone call and forgot about being on a gate and my gate cloak expired. It happens. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201/52 "2024-06-05T17:33:25Z")
idk how AFK you gotta be to get ganked while doing missions lol ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201/53 "2024-06-05T18:15:23Z")
Well we have some who afks L3s in an ishtar ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201/54 "2024-06-16T19:13:55Z")
> [@crandulas](#): > > I have come and gone from the eve game many times. > > when i have come back usually within a week i leave again because the constant pvp makes the game lack fun when i play. I’ll be completely honest. I didn’t read a single word past this point. Absolutely nothing you say beyond this has any relevance at all, because EvE is _ **clearly not the game for you.** _ Don’t feel bad, because this is the case for many people. The problem that arises here is not one single suggestion you could make would be good for EvE. Any suggestion you made would be antithetical to the very core tenet of EvE, which is a sandbox PvP game. There is zero aspect of EvE which is not entirely focused on PvP, for almost everything on the market is put there by players and the market is a form of PvP in EvE. EvE stands for Everyone vs Everything. You cannot make valid suggestions or arguments regarding a purely PvP game when you dislike PvP. Reporting this thread and requesting it be closed. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seperate-gamemodes-for-pvp-and-pve/451201/55 "2024-09-14T19:14:24Z")
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