# \[SERIOUS\] What can CCP do now to fix PVP in FW? **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [November 17, 2018, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/serious-what-can-ccp-do-now-to-fix-pvp-in-fw/121127 "2018-11-17T10:20:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![WhyYouHeffToBeMad\_IsOnlyGame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whyyouhefftobemad_isonlygame/32/272304_2.png) [@WhyYouHeffToBeMad\_IsOnlyGame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WhyYouHeffToBeMad_IsOnlyGame)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/serious-what-can-ccp-do-now-to-fix-pvp-in-fw/121127/83 "2019-01-17T12:53:48Z")
> [@Aadris](#): > > I have been in FW a while and know exactly how they work. then you probably know that these sites are there because they are the basis for the entire FW system, and by asking to remove some, you are essentially making it one-sided. because defensive and offensive plexing are not types of site but rather about the player who runs the site. or maybe you **don’t** understand it and you just **think** you do. and no, a full rewrk of the system is NOT what it needs, and it’s definitely never happening. you’re not the first to suggest this and you won’t be the last either. ---
**Author:** ![Aadris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aadris/32/306770_2.png) [@Aadris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aadris)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/serious-what-can-ccp-do-now-to-fix-pvp-in-fw/121127/84 "2019-01-18T05:44:47Z")
> [@WhyYouHeffToBeMad\_IsOnlyGame](#): > > then you probably know that these sites are there because they are the basis for the entire FW system, and by asking to remove some, you are essentially making it one-sided. because defensive and offensive plexing are not types of site but rather about the player who runs the site. The type of player that likes to orbit a beacon and do absolutely nothing for 15 minutes? Or do you mean the bots, which are far more numerous in d-plexes than the human players? > [@WhyYouHeffToBeMad\_IsOnlyGame](#): > > and no, a full rewrk of the system is NOT what it needs, and it’s definitely never happening. you’re not the first to suggest this and you won’t be the last either. “never happening” Lmao - Pretty amazing you can see into the future, if I was you I’d be using it for more than ill-thought-out forum posts. FW was already reworked once a long time ago, but apparently NEVERRR again?! Erm. The current system is basically dead in terms of player participation. Almost every other type of content in the game has far more players, is more interesting, more interactive, more developed, and more rewarding. FW right now is literally being gamed by bots, which tells you about how evolved it is. It’s time will surely come. In the meantime, I’m off to find a part of the game with some players in it. Over and out! ---
**Author:** ![WhyYouHeffToBeMad\_IsOnlyGame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whyyouhefftobemad_isonlygame/32/272304_2.png) [@WhyYouHeffToBeMad\_IsOnlyGame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WhyYouHeffToBeMad_IsOnlyGame)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/serious-what-can-ccp-do-now-to-fix-pvp-in-fw/121127/85 "2019-01-18T13:19:30Z")
and yet again you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the system’s mechanics and of the people who designed it. ---
**Author:** ![WEWILLSEE\_Whatwillbe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wewillsee_whatwillbe/32/10831_2.png) [@WEWILLSEE\_Whatwillbe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WEWILLSEE_Whatwillbe)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/serious-what-can-ccp-do-now-to-fix-pvp-in-fw/121127/86 "2019-01-18T15:27:39Z")
Great points, also about direct ISK, I still have somewhere those loyalty points, don’t even know where to find them at first, give done directly on ISK ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Sergeant\_MacRobert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/master_sergeant_macrobert/32/245588_2.png) [@Master\_Sergeant\_MacRobert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Master_Sergeant_MacRobert)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/serious-what-can-ccp-do-now-to-fix-pvp-in-fw/121127/87 "2019-01-20T18:20:24Z")
Forget asking for isk. LP rewards are an effective isk sink. You make something and then take isk from the null bot when he buys the thing you made. Eve does not want more true isk faucets. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Sergeant\_MacRobert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/master_sergeant_macrobert/32/245588_2.png) [@Master\_Sergeant\_MacRobert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Master_Sergeant_MacRobert)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/serious-what-can-ccp-do-now-to-fix-pvp-in-fw/121127/88 "2019-01-20T18:25:53Z")
The first thing that should be done is flatten the tier bonus’s and make tier 1 a 100% payout. By doing this players will be Discouraged to just pick a faction that has the best LP payout and the tier level will have less of an effect on the market supply. It should be the beginning of an encouragement mechanism to reward players for staying long term in a faction (keeping subscriptions - customer retention who’d have thouught). ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/serious-what-can-ccp-do-now-to-fix-pvp-in-fw/121127/89 "2019-04-20T18:26:04Z")
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