# \[Service\] \[Dead\] Code against Ganking - Closed 05/12/22 - Step by Step to a safer Highsec **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Tags:** high-sec\ **Created:** [July 26, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391 "2021-07-26T16:55:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gangolf_ovaert/32/373645_2.png) [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gangolf_Ovaert)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/103 "2021-09-05T17:30:38Z")
Ok, i will answer again all your questions. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > When Gringert Mordarax, aka Gangolf Ovaert, Sorry, not ginger… and I do not think that mean comments against Ginger adds to the discussion. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > promised to sell us a list of “all” Highsec gankers How would that look like? Sellling a Google Docs Sheet with random names and Numbers? I am programming (not even selling yet) a service, that updates your ingame contacts, with the **in my Eyes** most dangerous Gankers. Yes, i have claimed to detect all Ganks in the product description… But i next sentence i also explained where i get my data from. If you really insist, i will take this as feedback and change the wording for ya 🤣 [quote=" > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I only used Dracvlad once to gank, and that was a mining barge that was a bot in 2010. Now thats interesting… @Lilath_Pynnor @Triumvir_Roland I had a talk with someone called Lee Deer about anti-gank activities (didn’t know, someone is actual doing that), after that i had to update the code to prevent false positive detection. As long as you are only attack people flagged as criminal, you won’t end up on my list. Keep up the good work! ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/104 "2021-09-05T17:33:24Z")
Sorry, I really must have missed it What’s the purpose of detecting ganks that have already happened? ---
**Author:** ![Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gangolf_ovaert/32/373645_2.png) [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gangolf_Ovaert)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/105 "2021-09-05T17:54:05Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > What’s the purpose of detecting ganks that have already happened? I think we have discussed this already. The purpose is, to create a list of gankers, but i will try to explain it for you again. With this list, i can update the ingame contacts of players, so he can see a potential threat already in local chat. It is in an free Beta now, you can check it out yourself: [https://cag.gangolf.space/](https://cag.gangolf.space/) You are welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/106 "2021-09-05T17:54:53Z")
Sorry, I dont see what purpose that serves. What problem does this solve? ---
**Author:** ![Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gangolf_ovaert/32/373645_2.png) [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gangolf_Ovaert)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/107 "2021-09-05T17:58:09Z")
> [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](#): > > so he can see a potential threat already in local chat. I feel like a parrot on this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/108 "2021-09-05T18:15:59Z")
You arent really understanding the question. Let me put it differently. What does this offer that the GUI doesnt already? Can it detect the likely hood of being ganked by someone who hasnt ganked before? Can it detect the people who dont show up in local? ---
**Author:** ![Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gangolf_ovaert/32/373645_2.png) [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gangolf_Ovaert)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/109 "2021-09-05T20:03:48Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > You arent really understanding the question. I think more you don’t want to understand my answer. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > What does this offer that the GUI doesnt already? 1. Automatted Detection (You don’t have to search for ganks by your own) 2. Automatted Updates (You don’t have to remove inactive gankers) It basicly safes you a huge junk of time and work, that for example unexperienced or unaware players are not able to do. ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/110 "2021-09-05T20:25:47Z")
None, no and no. The OP want to offer a service that works like the intel used in 0.0. The issue is that he is missing all the other parts that makes the intel work in 0.0 (scouts nearby systems, intel channels, defense fleets, yadda yadda, etc…) . Not to mention that 0.0 operates in NBSI a.k.a neutral means hostile. If you make the same assumption for highsec then you don’t need to set gankers red to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/111 "2021-09-05T20:27:19Z")
> [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](#): > > As long as you are only attack people flagged as criminal, you won’t end up on my list. You are missing an opportunity there. Those people can end up in a different list, for a different set of customers. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/112 "2021-09-05T20:32:22Z")
> [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](#): > > Automatted Detection (You don’t have to search for ganks by your own) I dont search for ganks because knowing about old ganks serves no purpose to me. > [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](#): > > Automatted Updates (You don’t have to remove inactive gankers) Remove them from what? I think you dont really get how any of this works, tbh. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/113 "2021-09-05T20:34:08Z")
> [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](#): > > As long as you are only attack people flagged as criminal, you won’t end up on my list. AG do gank ganker scouts, they are not criminal at least in terms of the games mechanics. It might be advisable to remove those that gank frigates that have a cargo and ship scanner onboard. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/114 "2021-09-05T20:34:35Z")
If I see someone in local, I suspect them of being a bad un. There you go, 100% foolproof detection system. ---
**Author:** ![Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gangolf_ovaert/32/373645_2.png) [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gangolf_Ovaert)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/115 "2021-09-05T20:47:58Z")
> [@Pan\_Dora1](#): > > The OP want to offer a service that works like the intel used in 0.0. Good, that you know what i want to do 😃 > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Remove them from what? I think you dont really get how any of this works, tbh. There is a cap of 1024 Characters on the Contact list… you can’t add infnite gankers. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > AG do gank ganker scouts, they are not criminal at least in terms of the games mechanics. It might be advisable to remove those that gank frigates that have a cargo and ship scanner onboard. I will take i look into my data to check how many people this would affect. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > If I see someone in local, I suspect them of being a bad un. > > > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > > > There you go, 100% foolproof detection system. How do you know this is a bad guys? Bad Sec Status isn’t shown in local as long as you were not ongrid with him. For example: [Jayden Kusion](https://zkillboard.com/character/96003565/) has a -10 Sec Status ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/9/b/69b8776078be01d17fced233137bda5a15e72f19.jpeg) > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > There you go, 0% foolproof detection system. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/116 "2021-09-05T21:26:37Z")
> [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](#): > > How do you know this is a bad guys? They are in local. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/117 "2021-09-05T21:27:03Z")
> [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](#): > > There is a cap of 1024 Characters on the Contact list… you can’t add infnite gankers. Why would you ever need to do that? ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/118 "2021-09-05T21:31:49Z")
> [@Triumvir\_Roland](#): > > That is just marketing. > [@Triumvir\_Roland](#): > > A scam would be > > making claims that are not delivered The second quote is still true, whether it’s marketing or not. Advertising something not provided. ---
**Author:** ![Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gangolf_ovaert/32/373645_2.png) [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gangolf_Ovaert)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/119 "2021-09-05T21:42:00Z")
I have told you that already several times. > [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](#): > > This way you can detect gankers already in the local chat / in your solar system I am aware, that a ganker does not need this kind of information and Miners, Haulers and Newbies are my target group as customer. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/120 "2021-09-05T21:45:02Z")
> [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](#): > > Miners, Haulers and Newbies are my target At least he admits that he is trying to target miners and newbros. Finally, a little bit of honesty from this scammer. ---
**Author:** ![Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gangolf_ovaert/32/373645_2.png) [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gangolf_Ovaert)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/121 "2021-09-05T21:52:00Z")
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/122 "2021-09-05T21:53:30Z")
And Im telling you that you are purposefully overlooking that fact EVERYONE is a potential enemy and the gank that kills you is the one you dont see coming. You are literally trying to sell tiger-repellant rocks. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/1/e/b1e314e9323b177224702a81baa7886aa8fce11a.jpeg "The Simpsons Anti-Tiger Rock") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVqLHghLpw) Btw your bias is showing. Im telling you this as a miner and hauler. If you think Im a ganker, your detector needs recalibration. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391.md?page=7)