# \[Service\] \[Dead\] Code against Ganking - Closed 05/12/22 - Step by Step to a safer Highsec

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Tags:** high-sec\
**Created:** [July 26, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391 "2021-07-26T16:55:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gangolf_ovaert/32/373645_2.png) [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gangolf_Ovaert)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/123 "2021-09-05T22:05:59Z")

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You guys are really exhilarating.

While here in the thread y all try to defame me as a scammer, ganker and cheater, someone tries to DDOS my server and bruteforce my SSH access.

I will continue my work with a smile on my face, knowing that you are angry about it.

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**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/124 "2021-09-06T00:26:24Z")

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> [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](#):
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> Good, that you know what i want to do 😃

Sure, but that don’t means you know how to do it. And that is bad.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/125 "2021-09-06T01:00:39Z")

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> [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](#):
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> that you are angry about it.

Seems more like people poking fun at a snake oil salesman.

I can’t imagine one ganker who cares that you have created a service to point them out. If their flashy reddness in local doesn’t aready do it, one more list isn’t going to save the lazy or AFK (and anyone not lazy or AFK, already doesn’t need a list).

As one of the early responses pointed out:

> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> Your list won’t stop a single gank.

But you make some wildly impossible claims; and anyone who thinks to actually give you ISK, should be aware that perhaps your snake oil isn’t all it’s being sold as.

What would be far more useful to people would be a list of scouts and loot alts, because their presence in system is a much better early warning of possible trouble.

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**Author:** ![Triumvir\_Roland](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/triumvir_roland/32/286802_2.png) [@Triumvir\_Roland](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Triumvir_Roland)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/126 "2021-09-06T06:32:35Z")

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> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#):
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> I can’t imagine one ganker who cares that you have created a service to point them out. If their flashy reddness in local doesn’t aready do it, one more list isn’t going to save the lazy or AFK (and anyone not lazy or AFK, already doesn’t need a list).

Apparently they care enough to engage in faux white-knighting on the behalf of the community.

Doubly hilarious as this exposes their true care-bear nature.

And as delicious cherry on top try to argue against one of the foundational cornerstones of eve. A free market.

As I remarked earlier in the thread. This is superb content.

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**Author:** ![Donatien\_Alphonse\_Francois](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/donatien_alphonse_francois/32/305419_2.png) [@Donatien\_Alphonse\_Francois](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Donatien_Alphonse_Francois)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/127 "2021-09-06T09:26:48Z")

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> [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](#):
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> How do you know this is a bad guys? Bad Sec Status isn’t shown in local as long as you were not ongrid with him.
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> For example: [Jayden Kusion](https://zkillboard.com/character/96003565/) has a -10 Sec Status

I know Jayden Kusion, he would never gank anyone. He just has a bad rap after falling in with a bad crowd. He’s going to school and turning his life around. You owe him reparations and an apology.

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**Author:** ![Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gangolf_ovaert/32/373645_2.png) [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gangolf_Ovaert)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/128 "2021-09-06T12:18:02Z")

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According to the Caldari State data privacy act §33 2 in YC33 videos, livestreams and photos are allowed in public space.

Anyway, we are willing to pay Mrs. K. compensation in the form of 10,000k ISK and a brand new Corvette Ibis-Class, should Mrs. K. refrain from further criminal acts.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/129 "2021-09-06T13:27:17Z")

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I see you dont actually _have_ a defense about the fact that your system will do nothing to actually mitigate ganking, or in fact do anything at all.

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**Author:** ![Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gangolf_ovaert/32/373645_2.png) [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gangolf_Ovaert)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/130 "2021-09-06T13:33:28Z")

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I have, but i am sick of quoting myself.

I can add a Chatbot for you to my website, answering your same questions again and again and again.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/4/9/6497a2c3ebc67d523cad90b383d3c3cda76fbcc4.jpeg "Rick and Morty - You pass Butter") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7HmltUWXgs)

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/131 "2021-09-06T13:54:03Z")

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> [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](#):
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> I have, but i am sick of quoting myself.

Quoting stuff that is already not the answer to the question oddly enough isnt answering the question.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/132 "2021-09-06T15:01:50Z")

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> [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](#):
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> i am sick of quoting myself.

Not much of a sales pitch.

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**Author:** ![Vekku\_Dradis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vekku_dradis/32/463196_2.png) [@Vekku\_Dradis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vekku_Dradis)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/133 "2021-09-13T00:27:35Z")

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> [@Lilath\_Pynnor](#):
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> I was ganked by Dracvlad…

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/c/2c628b75e90ac28baa288c6d845df7c97521c522.gif)

@Dracvlad !  
How…how…_could_ you?!

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/3/f/63fb24f252ebbce3adc7158716321b216cc6df1a.gif)  
Now it is revealed you are just another sociopath murderer? You even participated in blapping a hauler in Niarja! 😮 Oh the pain!

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/4/9/54965e9d45d786cc435379e168a45dc964df1899.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/134 "2021-09-13T05:23:36Z")

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Proof needed, the only gank I did with Dracvlad was in 2010 on a bot.

Shooting a DST which went suspect is not really a gank.

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**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/135 "2021-09-13T05:27:06Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> gank I did

Seems like an admission for me.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/136 "2021-09-13T07:27:33Z")

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According to him in another thread, fighting someone in low or null is also ganking.

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**Author:** ![Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gangolf_ovaert/32/373645_2.png) [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gangolf_Ovaert)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/137 "2021-09-13T08:31:25Z")

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Aaaawhat?

Please Quote that for me… I am doing PVP in Null and Lowsec myself?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/138 "2021-09-13T08:32:50Z")

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Check it out in GD. In the thread about Hisec ganking.

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**Author:** ![Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gangolf_ovaert/32/373645_2.png) [@Gangolf\_Ovaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gangolf_Ovaert)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/139 "2021-09-13T08:34:22Z")

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Holy \*\*\*\*… Guess you were right

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/e/9/ee91a4ac32cfa3c38678653a439c9a5fd2d093a9.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/140 "2021-09-13T12:10:55Z")

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Perhaps my definition of a gank is relevant if you want to mention [it](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/141)

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/141 "2021-09-13T12:14:49Z")

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Im not going to comment on something that you have made so purposefully vague as to be able to argue about its definition no matter what the other person says, sorry.

Editted to be on-topic: So, what benefit does a gank detector give worth paying for?

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/service-dead-code-against-ganking-closed-05-12-22-step-by-step-to-a-safer-highsec/321391/142 "2021-09-13T12:30:59Z")

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That is not a vague definition, it is a well understood gaming definition where you bring overwhelming force to completely obliterate another player so they have no chance to even fight back. That is a gank, simple and easy to understand, well at least I would think it is, but it seems several Eve players don’t seem to understand it, well whatever…

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