# Shadow of Purity

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [October 24, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860 "2017-10-24T23:00:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/124 "2017-11-12T21:31:38Z")

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> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#):
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> but, did you actually do anything there?

Why, can’t you see? He’s clearly there to take pretty pictures of gleaming spaceships!

Cosmic Rocketeers, away!

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**Author:** ![Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veikitamo_gesakaarin/32/314638_2.png) [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veikitamo_Gesakaarin)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/125 "2017-11-14T00:52:45Z")

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An unhealthy obsession with a former (dead) leader.

Decrying everyone as traitors if they do not agree with them.

Poor phrasing in expressing ideas and concepts.

Constant attempts to try and impress upon others to fear their power and authority.

Maker, is this Vollhov an Amarrian and male version of Diana Kim?

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/126 "2017-11-14T05:15:47Z")

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Well … there aren’t a lot of people who actually seem to think Ms. Kim is a flat-out traitor. A few other unflattering adjectives and nouns, maybe, but not that.

Same can’t be said of Mr. Vollhov? He’s in open revolt against the throne of Amarr, so…

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**Author:** ![Elmund\_Egivand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elmund_egivand/32/11038_2.png) [@Elmund\_Egivand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elmund_Egivand)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/127 "2017-11-14T05:29:33Z")

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Goes to show how little they matter, don’t you think?

Besides, fleet ops like that is a Tuesday, far as I know.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/128 "2017-11-14T05:56:30Z")

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> [@Elmund\_Egivand](#):
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> Besides, fleet ops like that is a Tuesday, far as I know.

Is a handful of Omens and an Arbitrator a fleet now?

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**Author:** ![Elmund\_Egivand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elmund_egivand/32/11038_2.png) [@Elmund\_Egivand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elmund_Egivand)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/129 "2017-11-14T06:03:51Z")

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In low security space, it’s a fleet.

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**Author:** ![Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veikitamo_gesakaarin/32/314638_2.png) [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veikitamo_Gesakaarin)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/130 "2017-11-14T07:20:34Z")

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> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#):
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> Well … there aren’t a lot of people who actually seem to think Ms. Kim is a flat-out traitor. A few other unflattering adjectives and nouns, maybe, but not that.
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> Same can’t be said of Mr. Vollhov? He’s in open revolt against the throne of Amarr, so…

I specifically referred to the tactic of decrying _others_ of being traitors as a pattern of behaviour. It is an attempt to create an equivalency between a personal opinion and the laws of a state which does not exist: i.e “My opinions are the same as the laws of the state, if you disagree with my opinions you disagree with the law, therefore you are a traitor.”

It is the appeal to legitimacy and self-proclaimed authority where none exist that is similar. Disregarding the fact that as independent capsuleers operating under CONCORD we all enjoy extralegal status making any accusation of a crime being prosecuted a laughable one.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/131 "2017-11-14T13:34:46Z")

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Yeah, that’s, not really what I meant, Veik.

Ms. Kim, for all her worship of Tibus Heth, hasn’t quite followed him into open revolt (and probably would dispute that he ever turned on the State, himself).

Mr. Vollhov … well …

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/132 "2017-11-14T14:48:32Z")

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> [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](#):
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> Maker, is this Vollhov an Amarrian and male version of Diana Kim?

Well, ladies and gentlemen, seems this gurista troll infects this topic as well.

I am here just to say, that whatever this troll tells about me is utterly false. Please don’t pay attention to words of this mad woman.

D. Kim, Strike Commander,  
State Protectorate, CMC,  
Caldari State

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/133 "2017-11-14T15:39:11Z")

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She says you sign your posts.

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**Author:** ![Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veikitamo_gesakaarin/32/314638_2.png) [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veikitamo_Gesakaarin)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/134 "2017-11-14T21:56:26Z")

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> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#):
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> Yeah, that’s, not really what I meant, Veik.
> 
> Ms. Kim, for all her worship of Tibus Heth, hasn’t quite followed him into open revolt (and probably would dispute that he ever turned on the State, himself).
> 
> Mr. Vollhov … well …

Sure, Mr. Vollhov acts against the Throne to pursue his own agenda, and insofar as it advocates the overthrow of the government of the Empire considered a treason. However, it is not wholly without precedent in history if one considers the assassination of Zaragram or Khanid II taking the Marches.

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**Author:** ![Vollhov\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vollhov_jr/32/510418_2.png) [@Vollhov\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vollhov_Jr)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/135 "2017-11-26T20:06:19Z")

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We are still arranging raids in Warzona:  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/c/1ccbc909e01eef682427f8854f757ae8741131c5.jpg)

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/6/6631571e1d235b66e8e0cc624976a6f366778b59.jpg)

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/b/3bf114c62b1485bad4757a0c21c25334d44bd600.jpg)

Where is everything 24th ?

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**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/136 "2017-11-26T21:30:42Z")

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> [@Vollhov\_Jr](#):
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> Where is everything 24th ?

…Of?

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/137 "2017-11-26T21:31:27Z")

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Raids and raids… I’m seeing a few ganks, unfitted ships and such. Whenever there’s a decent fight going on, it seems like you guys tend to lose quite a bit.

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**Author:** ![Vollhov\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vollhov_jr/32/510418_2.png) [@Vollhov\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vollhov_Jr)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/138 "2017-11-26T21:40:47Z")

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All the more detailed: [here](http://forum.eve-ru.com/index.php?showtopic=118202&page=1)  
But you will not understand 😉

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/139 "2017-11-26T22:16:52Z")

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Ah yes, the ancient Ammarad dialect of “gobbledygook”. Explains the gibberish you’re bringing to the table here.

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**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/141 "2017-11-26T22:49:08Z")

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Challenge accepted.

I assume since you shared the link that you won’t mind me sharing an image of the translation of the document. It’s only part of the document anyhow. Admittedly, it took some new implants to get this.

 ![purity](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/9/29084e9165a51ead6335381592875c1a16767d3e.png)

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/142 "2017-11-27T00:16:35Z")

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Even filtered through the wonders of technology it still remains gobbledygook.

This is almost impressive.

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**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/143 "2017-11-27T00:22:08Z")

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Yes. The effort left me with a headache. I don’t know if the implants caused the headache, or from straining to make sense of what I translated.

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**Author:** ![Vollhov\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vollhov_jr/32/510418_2.png) [@Vollhov\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vollhov_Jr)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shadow-of-purity/33860/144 "2017-11-27T00:23:00Z")

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Not bad.  
There are some errors due to which the meaning is lost.  
But … not bad.

The main thing is that the leaders of the Purists are still not revealed there.

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