# Ship for blood raider sites

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**Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\
**Created:** [July 26, 2018, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637 "2018-07-26T07:54:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tian\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tian_toralen/32/240450_2.png) [@Tian\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tian_Toralen)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637/1 "2018-07-26T07:54:41Z")

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What ship to use, and what fit for blood raiders combat sites?

I scanned a Blood Raider Temple in null sec. First room went ok with a VNI, then in the second room I immediately lost the VNI and a Myrmidon later - I tried to get my wreck back, also I thought it will be able to tank.

Both ships had active armor tank and used an afterburner for transversal, but I got scrammed, neuted and webbed.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637/2 "2018-07-26T08:16:52Z")

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depends on the site.

If you don’t remember, we can’t help you

Yet the killmail could tell us what you encountered.  
Most likely a fob, as most other sites don’t point you.

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**Author:** ![Tian\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tian_toralen/32/240450_2.png) [@Tian\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tian_Toralen)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637/3 "2018-07-26T08:33:22Z")

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It was a site I scanned not an anomaly, it was not a DED rated because the message I got did not say anything about that.

In the second room there were towers that webbed me, frigates that scrammed, and others that neuted. I was out of capacitor, and dead before I could kill the frigates. If there wasn’t any neuts I believe the Myrmidon could have tanked.

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**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637/4 "2018-07-26T09:13:31Z")

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i think most minmatar ships are naturally em tanked so they could work  
confessor is good for sites up to level 5 but a bit too slow for level 5 and you need to warp out a few times  
if there are neuts you can fit a cap booster

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637/5 "2018-07-26T09:13:54Z")

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… a site you scanned is most likely a SIGNATURE.

It can also be another player you combat scanned.

I think you found a blood watch.  
[https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Blood\_Watch](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Blood_Watch)

The rats don’t scram here, they only point( so a mjd would help you)

> [@JC\_Mieyli](#):
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> i think most minmatar ships are naturally em tanked so they could work

T2 only.  
T2 resists are increased against their opposed faction, so amarr T2 are tanked vs explo/kine, gal T2 vs kine/therm, etc.

Then, armor is best against blood because natural armor em/thermal resist.

So an armor fitted T2 matar should be the best. a muning has 90/68 em/therm base armor, you may not even need a hardener. Just get a large cap battery and a medium armor rep.

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**Author:** ![Tian\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tian_toralen/32/240450_2.png) [@Tian\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tian_Toralen)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637/6 "2018-07-26T09:15:47Z")

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Ok, a signature. But it was in null-sec, could not be a Blood Watch.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637/7 "2018-07-26T09:20:47Z")

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dude if you don’t give details we can’t guess.

I think the loki would be bestest here.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637/8 "2018-07-26T09:33:32Z")

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wait for other people to give them opinion

I think this fit would do

> **HML loki**
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> ```
> [Loki, *Simulated Loki]
> Ballistic Control System II
> Ballistic Control System II
> Ballistic Control System II
> Medium Armor Repairer II
> Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
> Armor EM Hardener II
> Armor Thermal Hardener II
> 
> 50MN Microwarpdrive II
> Large Cap Battery II
> Republic Fleet Target Painter
> 
> Heavy Missile Launcher II
> Heavy Missile Launcher II
> Heavy Missile Launcher II
> Heavy Missile Launcher II
> Heavy Missile Launcher II
> 
> Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II
> Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
> Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
> 
> Loki Core - Augmented Nuclear Reactor
> Loki Defensive - Adaptive Defense Node
> Loki Offensive - Launcher Efficiency Configuration
> Loki Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
> 
> Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile x200
> 
> ```

I only have 440 missile DPs though …

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**Author:** ![Tian\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tian_toralen/32/240450_2.png) [@Tian\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tian_Toralen)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637/9 "2018-07-26T09:35:55Z")

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Thank you. But won’t it get neuted, which will again stop the repairs?

It was a Blood Raider Temple, I edited the first post.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637/10 "2018-07-26T09:46:41Z")

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I don’t know this site.  
The cap battery reduces the neut you take, also the nuclear reactor sub gives you 3-15% neut reduction, with the cap battery that makes 27.25-36.25%.

Now dont forget you can turn the mwd off to get a bit more of cap recharge.  
On the fit I gave you, with mwd off I can tank 30.4 GJ/s neut with sub skill I  
compare it to the 20 GJ/s of the blood neuts [http://games.chruker.dk/eve\_online/item.php?type\_id=28145](http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=28145)  
I guess with a thukker you can tank more, also you can add a cap rig to hold more.

basically the cap excess you need to reach is 20 \* nb\_turrets/(1-0.03 \* matar\_core\_sub)\*0.72^(thukkers)\*0.73^(factions)\*0.75^(T2+storyline)\*0.78^(meta)

eg vs 3 turrets, with minmatar core subsystems IV, fitting 1 thukker and 2 T2 cap battery (whatever the size), you need 20_3_0.88_0.72_0.75² = 21.4 GJ/s excess.

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**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637/11 "2018-07-26T10:13:53Z")

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i personally prefer acs with loki because it has impeccable tracking  
it can kill orbiting frigs at 2km no sweat

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637/12 "2018-07-26T11:15:16Z")

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If u can fly a Loki it would be great. 2 things

1. Armor tank. Great for blood raider. EM and THERMAL resist.
2. Use artillery. No cap needed for those. Neuts

Otherwise check another armor ship u can fly

I really dont know your site. I usually fly a Gila

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**Author:** ![Eternal\_Montage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternal_montage/32/425678_2.png) [@Eternal\_Montage](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternal_Montage)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637/13 "2018-07-26T16:30:38Z")

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> [@JC\_Mieyli](#):
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> i personally prefer acs with loki because it has impeccable tracking

But it’s absolutely vomit inducingly hideous. The missile one is sexy af.

> [@Tian\_Toralen](#):
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> What ship to use

Not sure what site you died on but back when I used to live in Genesis I would use a Machariel. For smaller sites I’d use a strat or loki. Be careful though, some of the blood raiders sites are straight-up traps and not worth doing, so always do the google.

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**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637/14 "2018-07-26T17:28:13Z")

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> [@Eternal\_Montage](#):
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> But it’s absolutely vomit inducingly hideous

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-blood-raider-sites/92637/15 "2018-10-24T17:28:15Z")

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