# Ship for hunting the hunters **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [January 11, 2018, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-hunting-the-hunters/50467 "2018-01-11T12:31:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nina\_B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nina_b/32/48669_2.png) [@Nina\_B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nina_B)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-hunting-the-hunters/50467/1 "2018-01-11T12:31:46Z")
I got jumped the other day while ratting (too complacent) by a rapier and a heretic. My question is this: next time some hunters enter my area, what is a good ship to grab to turn the tables? I can call for a fleet, but I would like to be able to handle a couple of ships on my own. My pvp experience is almost entirely frigates, so I’m still very new to this. I was thinking that grabbing a pvp fit ishtar might be a good idea. I have the skills for lots of ships, but I’m totally up for training into whatever it takes. Thanks in advance. ---
**Author:** ![Quelza](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quelza/32/36089_2.png) [@Quelza](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quelza)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-hunting-the-hunters/50467/2 "2018-01-11T13:20:03Z")
This depends quite a lot on what the hunters are flying and whether they see your ship as engageable. You could fly a tanky bait ship to keep them in system while your pals arrive. But if the opponents are flying a dictor and a T2 support cruiser I think you could get away with a T1 or Navy variant of the Vexor. ---
**Author:** ![walker\_Hanomaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/walker_hanomaa/32/291375_2.png) [@walker\_Hanomaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/walker_Hanomaa)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-hunting-the-hunters/50467/3 "2018-01-11T14:01:07Z")
The best ship is one called Pre aligning and intel ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-hunting-the-hunters/50467/4 "2018-01-11T16:08:14Z")
This does not help you engage them. The truth is it depends on what you are ratting in. bait carrier and bait rattle are different. ---
**Author:** ![Nina\_B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nina_b/32/48669_2.png) [@Nina\_B](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nina_B)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-hunting-the-hunters/50467/5 "2018-01-11T21:37:05Z")
Right. I know how to avoid being jumped. I just don’t always do it. What I want to happen is this … 1. I see neuts enter 2. Check them in zkill and see that they are trouble 3. Dock up. 4. Grab a pvp ship. 5. Blow them up or at least scare them away. ---
**Author:** ![Karl\_Poljus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karl_poljus/32/173233_2.png) [@Karl\_Poljus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karl_Poljus)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-hunting-the-hunters/50467/6 "2018-01-11T23:37:59Z")
They’ll probably just avoid engagement with any pvp ship they see on D-scan. If you want to catch someone he’s either should be unaware of your existence or think that you’re an easy prey. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-for-hunting-the-hunters/50467/7 "2018-04-11T23:39:16Z")
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