# Ships for running DED sites across the cluster? **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Tags:** null-sec, wormhole\ **Created:** [November 29, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ships-for-running-ded-sites-across-the-cluster/469627 "2024-11-29T18:49:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Billy\_Sanchezo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/billy_sanchezo/32/390986_2.png) [@Billy\_Sanchezo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Billy_Sanchezo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ships-for-running-ded-sites-across-the-cluster/469627/1 "2024-11-29T18:49:48Z")
Heya everyone. I’m currently based out of a wormhole with a nullsec static, and my hopes is to use the wormhole and prode around nullsec for lucrative sites. The best would be able to run up to the 10/10 sites. I’m still unsure about the ships to use. In terms of numbers, I feel like a 1000 DPS dealt and tanked would be a safe bet to not die in the sites, all the while having some neut resistance. Also, I’ll probably carry refits for the travel fit of the cruisers, and the resistance modules. Because of my staging, it would need to be able to move around nullsec unseen, which leave two options : - T3C cruisers. I have the skills for the Tengu and the Loki, and I feel the latter fits the bill better because of its resists and isn’t kinetic locked. - Black Ops. The jump drive opens a lot of potential, but they’re not the most sturdy ships from what I hear. The Sin and the Widow would be the best, however the first one seems difficult to reach target numbers. On the plus side and outside of any numbers, the idea of a battleship that can jump around is fkn badass. As for fits, I’ve tinkered a few of them and tested out the Lokis against Sleepers. [Loki, PVE HML 10/10] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner Pith X-Type EM Shield Hardener Pith X-Type Thermal Shield Hardener Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Domination Shield Boost Amplifier Thukker Large Cap Battery Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile Expanded Probe Launcher II Covert Ops Cloaking Device II /OFFLINE Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II Loki Defensive - Adaptive Defense Node Loki Offensive - Launcher Efficiency Configuration Loki Propulsion - Wake Limiter Loki Core - Immobility Drivers Hammerhead II x4 Zainou ‘Gypsy’ CPU Management EE-603 HML have the benefit of about 60km of range while tanking 1000 DPS and having cap to spare. But, you’re stuck with 700 DPS. Since a few of the 10/10 is a structure bash that regenerates HP, it might make the fit unusable. [Loki, PVE HAM 10/10] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Missile Guidance Enhancer II Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner Pith X-Type EM Shield Hardener Pith X-Type Thermal Shield Hardener Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster Domination Shield Boost Amplifier Thukker Large Cap Battery Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile Expanded Probe Launcher II Covert Ops Cloaking Device II /OFFLINE Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Loki Defensive - Adaptive Defense Node Loki Offensive - Launcher Efficiency Configuration Loki Propulsion - Wake Limiter Loki Core - Dissolution Sequencer Acolyte II x5 Zainou ‘Gypsy’ CPU Management EE-602 This one gets 936 DPS while keeping the same tank and acceptable cap, but you can only shoot to 30km with Rage missiles. There’s always the option of switching to Javelins though, but that means a measly 579 DPS. Now for the bonker idea : [Sin, 10/10 PVE] Reactive Armor Hardener Corpus X-Type Large Armor Repairer Centus X-Type Explosive Armor Hardener Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Large Micro Jump Drive Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Sensor Booster II Drone Navigation Computer II Thukker Large Cap Battery Dread Guristas Cloaking Device Drone Link Augmentor II Drone Link Augmentor II 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Large Auxiliary Nano Pump II Large Auxiliary Nano Pump II Wasp II x5 Bouncer II x5 Warden II x5 This one is more problematic. First of all, I love the Domi hull, hence why I’m trying to make a Sin work. Second, it’s about an extra billion ISK compared to the above Loki fits. Third, the DPS and tank varies depending the factions I’d be against, going from 1115 DPS with Antimatter and Ogres, to as low as 767 with Spike and Wardens. There’s also the weaknesses of MJDing away from heavies to mitigate the room damage, so they’d get shot without being able to avoid damage. And the fact that rails are damage locked to Kin/therm. The tank at worst is 577ehp/s against angel rats, and at best 1165ehp/s against Guristas. Capacitor lasts 3min, but you’d normally be outside of the range after a jump. [Widow, PVE 10/10 cruise] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Large Micro Jump Drive Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Thermal Shield Hardener Pith X-Type EM Shield Hardener Domination Target Painter Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script Thukker Large Cap Battery Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Dread Guristas Cloaking Device Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II Hornet II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 [Widow, PVE 10/10 torps] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Large Micro Jump Drive Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Thermal Shield Hardener Pith X-Type EM Shield Hardener Domination Target Painter Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Torpedo Launcher II, Nova Rage Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Nova Rage Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Nova Rage Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Nova Rage Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Nova Rage Torpedo Medium Energy Neutralizer II Dread Guristas Cloaking Device Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II Hornet II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Zainou ‘Gypsy’ CPU Management EE-602 And the two Widow fits that would work better than the Sin, but look less cool doing it. Cruises have all the range I’d ever need, and get 948 DPS with them. Torps goes to a whopping 1450DPS with Rage, but only at 36km. They can also do 840 DPS to 97km with Range script loaded. Sorry, this got long. Would love to get some opinions on the fits, and if you’d have new ideas about the concept or maybe things to change. o7 ---
**Author:** ![loki\_energon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loki_energon/32/444208_2.png) [@loki\_energon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/loki_energon)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ships-for-running-ded-sites-across-the-cluster/469627/2 "2024-12-01T00:35:19Z")
I just spent a hair over 1b to set up my loki for null exploring, not a noob, been doing exploration for years, i just wanted to do some ded sites, maye some higher level belt rats and the like. The first anom i warped into looked tame enough, i was blapped. Swarmed, pointed, vaporized. Left my Lokis tattered remnants 56 jumps from home. Id recommend going … Larger. ---
**Author:** ![Billy\_Sanchezo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/billy_sanchezo/32/390986_2.png) [@Billy\_Sanchezo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Billy_Sanchezo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ships-for-running-ded-sites-across-the-cluster/469627/3 "2024-12-01T00:42:01Z")
I’ve managed to run some sites so far, notably an Angel 7/10. Using the HAM fit I linked above, I did manage to complete it in one go, but I saw the flaws of the fit : - The range gets tough, although with Wake Limiter afterburner you can get easily in range. But, since high DED sites are often structure bashes that stop repairing after you fly far enough, it makes things like 8/10 impossible. - The tank is flimsy, not enough HP. Against the DED overseer, I often dipped in low shields. Against a room with more enemies and ewar, it’s a death sentence. - Finally, HAMs chew through ammo. Something like 4-5k missiles per site. At least T2 missiles are cheap… So yeah, if I do want to run escalations/harder sites, looks like a Black Ops is the way. I tinkered with the Widow and added some implants, it seems to be more doable. It’s expensive, yeah, but it’ll be fun if it works. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ships-for-running-ded-sites-across-the-cluster/469627/4 "2025-03-01T00:43:00Z")
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