# Shooting new players is a good thing! YES or NO? **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [August 2, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680 "2018-08-02T13:00:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/41 "2018-08-02T20:40:29Z")
Shoot em and recruit em is my motto. It does work sometimes to. ---
**Author:** ![Neuntausend](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neuntausend/32/11965_2.png) [@Neuntausend](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neuntausend)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/42 "2018-08-02T20:55:11Z")
I don’t see why we should deceive new players into believing that this is a different game than it actually is. Just shoot them like you would anyone else. Makes it easier for them to decide early on if this is the game they want to play. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/43 "2018-08-02T23:02:02Z")
No. Shooting should be based on in-game aspects and not be based on external aspects, if at all. It then shouldn’t matter when someone is new or old, male or female, black or white, etc… I shoot when the situation requires it and when I want to. I have no method, no credo, no ethic and no code. I do as I please. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/44 "2018-08-03T05:10:30Z")
I opted Yes. The sooner they learn loss can be around anywhere the sooner they either decide to toughen up and learn to adapt or GTFO and not come around crying the game is unfair ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/45 "2018-08-03T10:34:06Z")
I smell Zipf’s Law. ---
**Author:** ![Nora\_Maldoran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nora_maldoran/32/399985_2.png) [@Nora\_Maldoran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nora_Maldoran)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/46 "2018-08-03T12:39:31Z")
In general I would shoot first, then explain in an evemail or convo what happened and how they can avoid being shot next time. If they don’t get too salty about it, I’ll reimburse their loss most likely too. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/47 "2018-08-03T14:05:14Z")
i shoot at anything that moves in low sec, because it’s low sec. As far as I’m concerned, when you tick the ‘proceed’ button on the message that pops up the first time you jump into low sec space, you’re not even a newb anymore. At the very least, you’ve acknowledged the risks of making that jump. If players message me after losing with a friendly attitude, I’m always happy to have a chat. Salty tears are usually met with a swift meme and a block. I don’t care how many days old the toon is, it’s not my problem. ---
**Author:** ![Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nitshe_razvedka/32/18392_2.png) [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nitshe_Razvedka)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/48 "2018-08-03T14:05:30Z")
(_/sarcasm warning_) Shooting new players is like spearing baby dolphins. I luv dolphin steaks n them dumb dolphins got to respect ma authoritah. Couple of generations of dolphins n them ignorant fish’l learn to be less trustin, f-ing igits, like sonars special or sumthin. Nunthin like spearin baby dolphins ta makes me feel king of ma domain. Spearin’s so important to ma selfesteem, i’m top dog their jus fish. 🖕👉👌🐬🐟🍔🎃☣☢✅ ---
**Author:** ![Trevor\_Dalech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trevor_dalech/32/410287_2.png) [@Trevor\_Dalech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trevor_Dalech)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/49 "2018-08-03T14:17:56Z")
Shoot then recruit! Well… only recruit if they take getting shot well… ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/50 "2018-08-03T16:55:59Z")
So far, one post hidden and sent back to Author. Surprisingly this is rather tidy and on topic, sans one particular post. ---
**Author:** ![Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vipsan_agrippa/32/18391_2.png) [@Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vipsan_Agrippa)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/51 "2018-08-03T17:13:19Z")
seems some peeps put fish above man ---
**Author:** ![Lfod\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lfod_shi/32/376240_2.png) [@Lfod\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lfod_Shi)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/52 "2018-08-04T01:04:41Z")
Yeah. I mean… the only way to learn from your mistakes is to make them. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/53 "2018-08-04T05:03:31Z")
Absolutely this. If it wasn’t for getting my first mining Navitas ganked in lowsec when I was a newbro, I might never have started learning how to PVP back. ---
**Author:** ![Nico\_Boru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nico_boru/32/64941_2.png) [@Nico\_Boru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nico_Boru)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/54 "2018-08-04T19:24:43Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > They have to learn while they are still on free reapers. Otherwise they invest RL money and buy ships that either A cause them to never undock or B cause them to quit when they lose said ship. Ive spent millions on new players after shooting them. Except for one with a lable of Renamed Gallente Character(lots of numbers) who thought an Incursus with lazers would beat my Daredevil. Then a Daredevil with arty would beat my Daredevil. Talking shite the whole time. Im glad he uninstalled quietly. ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/55 "2018-08-04T20:02:24Z")
Only CCP would know they have done at least one study on it. No CCP comments on this subject. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/56 "2018-08-04T21:14:48Z")
I see you never shot a new player. ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/57 "2018-08-04T21:28:39Z")
Hunting new players says more about the hunter than the new player. Elite pvp right? ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/58 "2018-08-04T22:42:51Z")
Not really. If someone hunts everything that moves, then that includes ‘new players’, which could actually just be new toons used by veteran players for various purposes like scouting or baiting. There’s no way to really know that the toon you’re chasing is new or not, short of asking them, and letting them know you’re there kinda defeats the purpose of hunting. ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/59 "2018-08-04T22:45:07Z")
Null corps complain Hisec is too carebear and should be changed. Null corps spend loads of time in Hisec looking for pvp instead of Nullsec which is “better”. Irony? ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/60 "2018-08-04T22:46:28Z")
You’re making claims that you haven’t presented any evidence for, and have absolutely nothing to do with the topic. You talk like high sec is the only place new players exist. I recommend you broaden your own horizons first, and learn what actually happens in the game, rather than just making ■■■■ up. People might actually start taking you more seriously if you know what you’re talking about. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680.md?page=4)