# Shooting new players is a good thing! YES or NO? **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [August 2, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680 "2018-08-02T13:00:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/178 "2018-08-10T18:13:37Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > Yes they do actually. They may be idiots … Idiot is just another word for saying they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/179 "2018-08-10T18:13:58Z")
No it really isn’t ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/181 "2018-08-10T18:18:07Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > No it really isn’t You don’t know the meaning of the word idiot then. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/182 "2018-08-10T18:18:58Z")
But I do. Someone can be an idiot and in fact know that EVE is a game. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/183 "2018-08-10T18:23:26Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > But I do. Someone can be an idiot and in fact know that EVE is a game. It isn’t about knowing that EVE is a game. It’s about how one behaves in reality. Take Dom here. He makes a good example. He knows EVE is a game, he knows how to behave on the forum, and still he calls me an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/184 "2018-08-10T18:25:55Z")
We are talking about how someone behaves in this game not how he behaves in RL. If someone goes after new players he may be a bad sport, but that does not make him a sociopath. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/185 "2018-08-10T18:26:33Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > and still he calls me an idiot. Because you are with your flawed logic lol Also lol @all the butthurt report bots ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/186 "2018-08-10T18:27:36Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > We are talking about how someone behaves in this game No, we’re not. Go back to my [original comment](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/166) and read again what I wrote. Lets say if I knew you in RL and then decided to shoot you, because I know you, then my action isn’t based on in-game events, but on RL. This would make me an idiot, wouldn’t you say? ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/187 "2018-08-10T18:29:44Z")
No, the age of the character is an aspect in the game and not a RL aspect of a person. It is all an intreraction in EVE and has nothing to do with anything outside the game. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/188 "2018-08-10T18:32:19Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > No, the age of the character is an aspect in the game No. It’s reported in the game and the date you see on a player’s history is the RL date and not some sci-fi date. If your RL name and e-mail address were shown in the game and you then get spam e-mail, then you sure aren’t going to believe it’s all just in-game actions. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/189 "2018-08-10T18:33:59Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > If your RL name and e-mail address were shown in the game Then the idiot posting it would get banned And my spam folder would have more senders lul ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/190 "2018-08-10T18:39:58Z")
It just tells you when that character started existing in the game. It is all game related. Do you actually have a real argument to backup your “sociopath” claim or is that timestamp thing it? > [@Whitehound](#): > > If your RL name and e-mail address were shown Those are information related to my RL identity. The timestamp of when my EVE character was created is NOT related to my RL identity. It is only related to my EVE character ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/191 "2018-08-10T18:40:45Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > It just tells you when that character started existing in the game. It is all game related. > > Do you actually have a real argument to backup your “sociopath” claim or is that timestamp thing it? As I said, read my original comment. It explains my point of view. When one bases a decision on an RL aspect then one doesn’t make a distinction between game and reality. One has in fact crossed the line. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/192 "2018-08-10T18:43:09Z")
Is this another one of those threads like the ganking discussion where people make up their own definitions of words and then argue about that definition matches some ingame behavior? ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/193 "2018-08-10T18:43:15Z")
So none then. OK, looks like the case is closes then ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/194 "2018-08-10T18:46:09Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > When one bases a decision on an RL aspect then one doesn’t make a distinction between game and reality. Please elaborate what the timestamp of my characters birthdate tells you about my RL. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/195 "2018-08-10T18:46:13Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/5/75e27dcfcc4d39b633149a1cec83f0d45e58fb33.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/196 "2018-08-10T18:47:49Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > Please elaborate what the timestamp of my characters birthdate tells you about my RL. Nobody is talking about you. Or have you forgotten the topic? ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/197 "2018-08-10T18:51:21Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > > [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > > > Please elaborate what the timestamp of my characters birthdate tells you about my RL. > > Nobody is talking about you. Or have you forgotten the topic? What a weak excuse to dodge the question. Your whole argument for justifying to call players who hunt new characters sociopaths is based on the time of birth being somehow connected to RL and yet when asked you fail to provide even an example of what you mean. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680/198 "2018-08-10T18:54:51Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > What a weak excuse to dodge the question. Your whole argument for justifying to call players who hunt new characters sociopaths is based on the time of birth being somehow connected to RL and yet when asked you fail to provide even an example of what you mean. Not at all. I’m not calling anyone a sociopath. Read again. The topic is then also still the same, “shooting new players”. That I’m using a character’s creation date as a means to determine a new player’s age has nothing to do with old players or them creating new characters. If anyone is dodging something then it would be you. I’m still saying that shooting a player, because they are new or old to the game or because they are black or white, male or female, are all RL aspects of a person. And when someone uses these as their sole reason then they no longer distinguish between game and reality. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-new-players-is-a-good-thing-yes-or-no/94680.md?page=9)