# Shooting player’s spaceships in EvE is not toxic behavior **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 7, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137 "2022-09-07T16:04:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/275 "2022-09-12T16:52:36Z")
Note how in the talk about the new Chinese server, it’s always “implementing something like that for TQ” instead of making an alternative Western server with the same kind of rule set. It was never about giving these players the ability to “play in a safe area” or whatever; it’s always been about the abolition of open-world PvP games that these people believe shouldn’t exist _at all,_ for _anyone._ This is why they aren’t playing EVE Echoes, which is barely staying alive with a population of a few thousand at this point, even though it has _exactly_ what they’re looking for. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/277 "2022-09-12T16:54:23Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I prefer you going off on a tangent about how you don’t think I play because it’s more amusing and less likely to have an impact that if you were actually bothering to refute the points being made. If you actually made any genuine points they’d be refuted. But you are long on words and very short on actual substance. There’s a huge amount of _padding_ ( stuff that doesn’t contain any actual evidential facts ) in most of the posts from your side of the fence…almost as if you know there really isn’t much to say except repeat the same whine over and over and its easier to cover it all in detritus than post the same one sentence again and again and again. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/279 "2022-09-12T16:55:39Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I don’t have all day. You clearly do. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/281 "2022-09-12T17:04:24Z")
I have other things to attend to 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Kell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucas_kell/32/393556_2.png) [@Lucas\_Kell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucas_Kell)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/282 "2022-09-12T17:06:46Z")
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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/283 "2022-09-12T17:09:06Z")
For someone who doesn’t care what any of us think… …you sure go to great lengths to convince us. Meanwhile, you fail to do the one thing that might convince anyone, which would be to post on an actual character that isn’t a do-nothing alt. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/284 "2022-09-12T17:09:32Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > It is one in which looking after noobs means nerfing a bunch of playstyles > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > \*One single playstyle. Unfortunately, Altara was responding to a post that suggested that shooting a player in lowsec was now rationalised as not how to retain new players: > [@Faldor\_Tivianne](#): > > a 2 day old player, who was in 0.4 space with a venture, basically fish in a barrel. The exchange I saw in local way “why, I’m nothing, don’t kill me.” The response, “Eve is pain.” > > We all know the reason he was killed was to **get a notch on zkillboard**. However he contributed nothing to the game, he just came off as a snotty player to the new player. That is not how we retain people. It’s not just “nerf one playstyle”. There are posts in the forun all the time suggesting pvp be removed or restricted by CCP or self-moderated by the player base, beyond just “remove ganking”. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/285 "2022-09-12T17:37:03Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > They’re rolling out a new server in China with a new map and on that one there’s no ganking in highsec. If it takes off they’ll probably roll out a similar thing for TQ. Encourage people to come to the forum and petition for something like that though as the forum tends to have a lot of pro-gank bias that needs to be overcome for CCP to take action, as gankers tend to troll people until they leave the forum. LOL. Yea, cause they like grinding in absolute safety. That other thread that was mostly trolled here was started by a Chinese dude. Of course they want total safety in high sec cause it makes them IRL money LOL. > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Then report it. If you think that speculating on what CCP will do is “rumour mongering” then you go right ahead and report it. Someone seems a little emotional 😃 > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > You literally stand shoulder to shoulder with posters who lob direct personal attacks at me for having an opinion they disagree with. Heh. I always cackle when you try to stand up on your pedestal after your deletefest ROFL. _Imagine_ being like this ROFL. > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Doubtful since I think a lot of newer players would be happy to see a fresh server with veterans not decades ahead in assets. Yennoe you seem to talk a lot for the noobs without actually playing with them 😃 > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > The only problem is that because they’ve already trolled most of the forum population out of the forum there won’t be many people left. Oh, so now we’re blamed for this too huh? 😃 You got any proof or > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > So then start telling them that, start lobbing your idle threats at them. Bro, he’s hardly threatening you. You seem a bit sensitive bruv 😃 > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I genuinely believe the overall numbers would be higher, and that many players such as myself would play both. And I don’t believe the economy of either would be dead. Yea, cause you lack any depth of experience with MMOs LOL. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/286 "2022-09-12T17:38:20Z")
Lol…you care SO much about harrassment in Eve that you follow me out to some system and start harranguing me in local chat. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/287 "2022-09-12T18:00:48Z")
Aw, you made a friend! ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/289 "2022-09-12T18:15:31Z")
trial by combat appears to be a totally rational way to solve forum disputes ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/291 "2022-09-12T18:26:29Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > trial by combat appears to be a totally rational way to solve forum disputes He doesn’t _actually_ want a fight, though. He just wants to troll Cilly by throwing away an inconsequential ship on an inconsequential character so that he can mock her with comments about how she’s “so skilled” and is an “elite PvPer” because she “killed a low-skilled alt in a throwaway ship” instead of “picking a real fight” with a “real PvPer.” I’ve seen carebears try to pull off this reversal many times, and can spot it from a mile away. It’s the “you’ve already stabbed me, so why don’t you twist the knife too” sensationalist trolling angle they use to attempt to try to convince themselves to be proud of their self-adopted victimhood. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/293 "2022-09-12T18:34:39Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > What happened to the good old days where if you publicly told someone specific to come fight at a place you ended up with a dozen people showing up to obliterate you? oh the nostalgia ![Captura de Tela 2022-09-12 às 15.30.52](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/c/4/6c4819088aa65a84eaf668d6f0ec232193a0b17b.png) ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/294 "2022-09-12T18:35:50Z")
If you truly want a KB mark so bad, you can get one quickly by following this easy guide: 1. travel to jita 2. buying a mammoth 3. putting cargo expanders in the low and cargo rigs 4. buy Plex and LSI’s 5. put them in the mammoth 6. undock 7. press control+spacebar 8. wait It’s reported that people that have followed the above steps have been more active than you. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/296 "2022-09-12T18:42:36Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > If you truly want a KB mark so bad Or just put an alt in a Venture and kill them. Some people take the idea of getting killmarks to the extreme though: > **[Russiankryt | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/2119142890/)** > > Russiankryt: 220 ships destroyed and 22 ships lost. Sidetrack, what is @Adrian_Vexier doing here? > **[Shanon McLowe | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/2118327930/)** > > Shanon McLowe: 0 ships destroyed and 550 ships lost. The only reason I noticed this is because the character died to Adrian 25 times in a Venture this year also, but beyond simple padding (which Adrian doesn’t seem to need as he kills plenty anyway), what’s the advantage of killing masses of corvettes? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/297 "2022-09-12T18:45:42Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Genuinely I wanted to just get a KB mark one way or the other so that she couldn’t keep pulling the “you don’t have a killboard so you must be inactive” card and would have to actually discuss the topics at hand. That buy order alt was the only character near the ass end of nowhere she was based. If you want to pad your board so badly, you can always kill one of your own alts. I’m sure that getting that one frigate kill in the year of our lord 2022 is going to transform you into the epitomical “active player” and make not a soul question your dedication to spending time actually playing this game. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/298 "2022-09-12T18:47:35Z")
its so easy to get fights pick a yellow loot in jita or amarr or for example yesterday i was ohhhh i will get my ass kicked in this arena its hard for me to do it because I’m solo solo and if its not 1v1 i usually cant join my ass got kicked indeed but it was a blast btw people don’t believe me, even nowadays you can sit in a plex for 15 minutes in low sec and the pew come ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/300 "2022-09-12T18:48:43Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Or just put an alt in a Venture and kill them. Some people take the idea of getting killmarks to the extreme though: > > [Russiankryt | Character | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/character/2119142890/) Maybe he was just trying to bury the shame: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/b/a/0ba3fb06ae56b82cdcc8dc6ab3dd887a997cbe1c.png) ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/301 "2022-09-12T18:48:49Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I tried it. 3 days… nothing. Huh, I guess ganking must not be a problem in the game, then! Next topic! ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/302 "2022-09-12T18:52:28Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > In what was is that harassment? Calling for someone to come fight at planet 1 is harassment now? But ganking them while they try to travel between career agents isnt? I had already told you I was already busy. As you no doubt saw…getting ready for a fleet. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137.md?page=15)