# Shooting player’s spaceships in EvE is not toxic behavior **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 7, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137 "2022-09-07T16:04:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/304 "2022-09-12T18:56:07Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > It’s about some random on the forum determining that my KB isn’t active enough for them to engage in a rational debate and since it’s their problem it seems only fitting that they resolve it. No, its about determining what your stake in things actually is…to see how much is genuinely caring about noobs and how much is self interest due to it affecting your own game. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/305 "2022-09-12T18:56:32Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > It’s not really about padding, is it? It’s about some random on the forum determining that my KB isn’t active enough for them to engage in a rational debate and since it’s their problem it seems only fitting that they resolve it. > > TBH, I’d be fairly happy if they just learned how to engage in the actual discussion rather than trying to attack my credibility every time they see an argument they have no counter for - which in this case is pretty much any argument. If your sole contribution to the game’s community and environment is that you sit in some renter dead-end and farm anomalies six hours a day while docking up if a neutral is reported anywhere within 10 jumps of you in intel chat, then you’re not someone with whom an “actual discussion” can be held. You might as well be a _bot_ at that point. If you want your comments about the health of the game and your “suggestions” about how to improve it to be taken seriously, you need to possess familiarity with the topics being discussed, which you _say_ you do (“I was a ganker and ganked a lot, hue hue,” “I was a PvPer and got plenty of kills, hue hue”), but are never actually willing to prove it. So then it’s all just yap-yap, which admittedly is an entitlement you possess, like anyone else here, or like the crazy homeless person in the public square pontificating about the “government nanomachines” living under their skin. Go ahead, tell us all about how you don’t care what we think of you again. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/306 "2022-09-12T18:57:17Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Or just put an alt in a Venture and kill them. Some people take the idea of getting killmarks to the extreme though: > > [Russiankryt | Character | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/character/2119142890/) I smell a gank-hater creating an “evidence” about ganking getting out of the hand here. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/308 "2022-09-12T19:04:54Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > How does me having KB stats determine what my stake is? As with any remotely competent veteran player it has no impact on my game beyond more players helping ensure it keeps going. You keep saying things have no impact on your game…but refuse to post on any account that demonstrates that. While at the same time you are quite happy to use the fact that others _are_ posting on their main to chase them down and harrangue them in Local…lol. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/309 "2022-09-12T19:05:31Z")
I like fish sticks… ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/310 "2022-09-12T19:06:34Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > I like fish sticks… Do you like putting fishsticks in your mouth? ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/311 "2022-09-12T19:07:40Z")
Where else would I put them? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/312 "2022-09-12T19:08:49Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > Do you like putting fishsticks in your mouth? I have so many questions, but I really think it’s in my best interest if I don’t ask them. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/314 "2022-09-12T19:19:58Z")
![churlish](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/b/c/6bc650644b4b52457bb87f85ad87b6401987dee5.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/315 "2022-09-12T19:34:48Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/4/8/c484d4d699187dd1d9835ba60ad8bc9e05f97d5b.gif "I Understood That Reference GIFs - Get the best GIF on GIPHY") I wish I had a better meme, sorry ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/316 "2022-09-12T19:36:57Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I wish I had a better meme, sorry IMO its fine ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/317 "2022-09-12T19:43:32Z")
The pcu must be really low if traders start undocking to get killmarks. What’s New Eden coming to. smh ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/318 "2022-09-12T19:45:17Z")
Talking to Lucas is like talking to a politician and asking for their economic background/education before considering their proposals for drastic policy changes, and them responding by saying that “it’s not the qualification that’s important, it’s the \*message.” ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/320 "2022-09-12T20:04:02Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > the same people continued to attack me personally rather than the actual topic. Lol…I’m not the one following someone half way across Eve in order to rant at them in Local. You don’t seem to have any problem calling me a ‘coward’ in Local when in fact ( as you saw ) I was too busy prepping for a mission…yet you’re the same guy who objects to smack talk from gankers. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/321 "2022-09-12T20:06:55Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > you don’t need to be a ganker for your views on ganking to be relevant. You need to have some skin in the game as a participant in the activity in _some_ form. Everyone can have an opinion, but some people’s opinions are worth more than those of others, and yours is practically worthless because all we know about you is that you’re some null-sec PvE grinder who hasn’t even played the game in years. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/322 "2022-09-12T20:11:43Z")
Lol, really ? That actually happened ? ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/323 "2022-09-12T20:20:07Z")
It did. Kind of ironic on a thread in which he’s railing against toxic behaviour. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/325 "2022-09-12T20:24:45Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I didn’t say that in local at all. That was in a private chat you pulled me into. Lol…no I called you into private chat _because_ you were riling in Local, in a situation where war targets were also in the system. And yes it was a successful op…no thanks to someone telling the entire world the fleet was forming up 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/328 "2022-09-12T20:40:18Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I did show up in the system she lives in to challenge her to the 1v1 I don’t ‘live’ there. It’s entirely a short term base for operations, and I have a handful of ‘doctrine’ ships there…which is all I need. All my frigates, etc are 57 jumps away at Oipo, where I _do_ actually live. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/329 "2022-09-12T20:43:26Z")
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