# Shooting player’s spaceships in EvE is not toxic behavior **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 7, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137 "2022-09-07T16:04:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/771 "2022-09-26T19:15:16Z")
I? I take the game seriously? ROFL. If you had ever seen me in game, you know that would not be true 😃 Yes, I am active on the forums, as I am on all of the media of vidya games I am interested in 😃 Erm. Considering where I live, I do not suffer from a sunshine problem 😃 See, you say “almost” harassment. What harassment but a dissenting opinion? No matter how much you cry to daddy CCP, the fact remains that EVE is an open world PvP game where you consent as soon as you undock. Now, if CCP ever changes that, well, that is a whole nother conversation. One which will most likely lead me to mosy off into the sunset. ---
**Author:** ![Tenger\_Ondor\_Khaan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tenger_ondor_khaan/32/357667_2.png) [@Tenger\_Ondor\_Khaan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tenger_Ondor_Khaan)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/772 "2022-09-26T20:21:51Z")
Now, if CCP ever changes that, well, that is a whole nother conversation. One which will most likely lead me to mosy off into the sunset. So you are a bully, like it and if you can not have your way you will take your ball and go home. Not very brave. But dont worry CCP will not change a thing so your good. ---
**Author:** ![Tenger\_Ondor\_Khaan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tenger_ondor_khaan/32/357667_2.png) [@Tenger\_Ondor\_Khaan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tenger_Ondor_Khaan)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/773 "2022-09-26T20:24:06Z")
No I may lose a ship that is not real, has no value except as a real money sink. I dont want to lose my imaginary wealth. lol ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/774 "2022-09-26T20:29:09Z")
> [@Tenger\_Ondor\_Khaan](#): > > Now, if CCP ever changes that, well, that is a whole nother conversation. One which will most likely lead me to mosy off into the sunset. So you are a bully, like it and if you can not have your way you will take your ball and go home. Not very brave. But dont worry CCP will not change a thing so your good. Son, is that quafe you’re smoking? The reason why I’d leave is not because I couldn’t blap others. It is because it wouldn’t be EVE anymore. I’ve already lived through what happens to a game when you change that core tenet of the game. The game becomes boring and lifeless. EVE is EVE because of the open world PvP. Without that, it is merely an outdated sub par space sim. We give EVE life with our choices and agency. When you take that away, well, that’s all you got. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/775 "2022-09-26T20:55:27Z")
> [@Tenger\_Ondor\_Khaan](#): > > So you are a bully, like it and if you can not have your way you will take your ball and go home. Not very brave. But dont worry CCP will not change a thing so your good. If CCP were to remove PvP from the game, then staying just to mindlessly farm what’s left of the game in terms of PvE content wouldn’t be brave either. ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/776 "2022-09-27T01:11:19Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > remove PvP from the game Not from the game, just from High-Security Space. Problem solved. The game will BOOM!!! ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/777 "2022-09-27T01:43:32Z")
> [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > Not from the game, just from High-Security Space. > > Problem solved. The game will BOOM!!! LOL no, no it won’t. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/778 "2022-09-27T08:11:24Z")
> [@Tenger\_Ondor\_Khaan](#): > > a whole nother A what? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/779 "2022-09-27T08:54:19Z")
people that shot spaceships in EVE are not EVE players , actually they are self appointed gatekeepers of ways of knowing about EVE , thus they exclude other ways of playing EVE and in fact other entire systems of interacting with EVE that can for example enable equitable outcomes for all EVE players, doing that they create a systematic toxic game experience ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/780 "2022-09-27T09:16:10Z")
How do we defend against pirate rats and still be this _Eve player_? Are you referring towards interacting with the environment in Eve? Mining? Does it count if the drones only shoot spaceships and are set to defend only? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/781 "2022-09-27T09:21:17Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Mining mining is one way of interacting with EVE that doesn’t involve shooting spaceships and should have the same value as any other way , like for example being docked all the time spinning ships don’t let the gatekeepers negate your lived experience ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/783 "2022-09-27T09:56:28Z")
Fluffy bears considers anything that interrupts their current activity , griefing. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/784 "2022-09-27T09:59:55Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > This is just your dumb griefer brain trying to rationalize away your toxicity Says she who used AIKO as her own personal attack dog. You are kidding right? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/785 "2022-09-27T10:05:24Z")
Yes, exactly how it can be in New Eden with out your activities being constructed by other capsuleers. The downside to this is how do we know that the ore in which we are currenlty mining isn’t going to be used one day to effect our everyday routine of mining , reprocessing (selling)? / eg; For 1 whole week we mine freely without seeing another capsuleer who is sititng in a station spinning their pod waiting for the material to be placed onto the market so they can then buy and build a ship that will undock the next week to go hunt down the supplier (miner) of the material they just purchased from the week before? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/786 "2022-09-27T11:04:22Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > You get that he’s not actually a new player, right? ROFL. Now you go from griefing Altara, to griefing the nubs you supposedly care about. Stuff is wild 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/788 "2022-09-27T11:08:07Z")
LOL. It’s hilarious. This dude is an actual nub and you’re legit griefing him on the forums but you allegedly care about them getting killed in game, which will make them leave, when you’re literally attempting to grief a newbro on the forums to get him to leave. Absolutely wild 😃 ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/790 "2022-09-27T12:14:17Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > You get that he’s not actually a new player, right? > [@Omnis\_Decline](#): > > I’m a new person (3 days in). That said, I’ve had friends in the game at various points dating all the way back to launch. I know more about New Eden’ history than a typical new arrival. I did research beyond the headlines and the big news articles about the Jita riots back in 2011. I was a DUST 514 player, which was a very tenuous connection to the reality of EVE, but it had its positive moments. Is this about “context” again Lucas? ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/791 "2022-09-27T12:15:48Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > ROFL. Now you go from griefing Altara, to griefing the nubs you supposedly care about. > > Stuff is wild It is pretty clear to me that all this talk about saving the new bro is about making the game easier for vets that afk mine and want to be free to haul stuff on auto pilot. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/793 "2022-09-27T12:33:14Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Just an observation. He didn’t really make any attempt to hide it. He created his account then spread out a few posts in newbie-friendly forums but made way too many references no newbie would make (no matter how much DUST514 they claimed to play or how many friends they have) before immediately proceeding to jump into multiple ganking discussions saying “ganking is fine!”. It’s probably Altara. So you’re making definitive statements based oh a hunch then? ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/795 "2022-09-27T12:37:12Z")
Hello Defi Nayalie NotAnAlt! Can you tell us more about your ganking experience? Were you mining in a venture or hauling plex in a corvette? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137.md?page=29) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137.md?page=31)