# Shooting player’s spaceships in EvE is not toxic behavior **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 7, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137 "2022-09-07T16:04:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/798 "2022-09-27T12:46:34Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > I was just travelling from one career agent system to another and someone blew me up. This type of griefing should be banned. What, oh no, that is terrible! Did the other player catch you at a gate, or in a mission, or something else? ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/799 "2022-09-27T12:49:11Z")
It was near one of those portals to another place. Upon seeing me explode 63 other new people immediately deleted their characters and quit the game too. And since I am clearly and unequivocally a new player these are the types of things I’m most qualified to understand. Ganking is abuse! Ban all abusers! If I buy this ship for real money, will that help ensure gankers are banned? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/e/d/9edffd7318b3215a516e2d27b69fa9d4c889ff6a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/800 "2022-09-27T12:55:30Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > It was near one of those portals to another place. Upon seeing me explode 63 other new people immediately deleted their characters and quit the game too. And since I am clearly and unequivocally a new player this are the type of things I’m most qualified to understand. > > Ganking is abuse! Ban all abusers! Wow, that is horrible! As a new player, are you sure you were not hauling plex or large skill injectors in your corvette? Or maybe did your corporation give you a billion isk to buy a battleship BPO and you were returning it to your head quarters? I would caution you a that new players flying large expensive ship is like parking your Ferrari on the street in the bad side of town. Anyways Defi Natalie NotAnAlt, the important thing is did you learn anything from this? Maybe that EvE is not a safe space and you always have to be vigilant? ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/801 "2022-09-27T12:56:54Z")
Yes, I learned that gankers are destroying the game and must be banned. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/802 "2022-09-27T13:08:27Z")
Hmm, I am not sure that those are the best lessons to have learned from this experience. I think you need to learn the first rule of EvE. Don’t fly what you can’t afford to loose. It is too bad those other 63 characters already quit. You all could have ganged up together to form a fearsome swarm to seek vengeance rather than just bowing out of the game. ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/803 "2022-09-27T13:11:42Z")
You’ve victim blaming, stop abusing me, I’m a poor nub. The first rule of EVE is that gankers should be banned. There are no further rules. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/804 "2022-09-27T13:19:45Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > People should at least _try_ to make their alts look like actual players. Like you? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/806 "2022-09-27T13:22:07Z")
Well, you did make that statement as if you were some sort of _expert_ on making alts look like actual players. I figured an expert has _experience_ in the subject matter. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/808 "2022-09-27T13:26:05Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > ROFL. Now you go from griefing Altara, to griefing the nubs you supposedly care about. His noob alt is still lurking there at Azerakish. Sad, really. I’m gonna shuttle around Eve just to cost him lots of agent fees 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/811 "2022-09-27T13:42:43Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > You’ve victim blaming, stop abusing me, I’m a poor nub. > > The first rule of EVE is that gankers should be banned. There are no further rules. Lol, Defi Natalie NotAnAlt, you sound like a veteran I know who is sure that there is no counter to gankers because context invalidates any strategy that could protect oneself. Maybe you and he should team up together and start a petition on [change.org](http://change.org) (or some other website, not here so much). ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/812 "2022-09-27T13:44:50Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > If I genuinely wanted to keep tabs on you I’d roll and alt and join your alliance. Oh please do. I need more practice in rooting out spies. ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/814 "2022-09-27T14:18:46Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > Defi Natalie NotAnAlt, you sound like a veteran I know I’m definitely not an alt of a veteran. I’m a new player and you are abusing me by victim blaming. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/815 "2022-09-27T14:24:45Z")
When it is this obvious the ISD should muzzle/ban character from the forums and delete their posts… what do you think @ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/816 "2022-09-27T14:33:44Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Where did I lie? Okay, lets go back through the convo and extract the lie. > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > People should at least _try_ to make their alts look like actual players. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Like you? > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I have no idea what you are talking about. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Well, you did make that statement as if you were some sort of _expert_ on making alts look like actual players. > > I figured an expert has _experience_ in the subject matter. > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I do pretty well at it, it’s kinda needed when you want traders in multiple coalitions that are at war. The lie occurred when you said “I don’t know what you are talking about.” It’s a lie by omission. Then you actually admitted you lied when you said that you do make alts for your trading. Why didn’t you just lead with that? ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/818 "2022-09-27T14:52:44Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > I’m definitely not an alt of a veteran. I’m a new player and you are abusing me by victim blaming. Lol, Defi Natalie NotAnAlt, I just said you sound like someone else I know who has repeatedly said that there is no counterplay to ganking. I am sorry if it sounds like I was accusing you of being an alt of that person. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/819 "2022-09-27T15:00:56Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Not at all, I didn’t (and still don’t) know what you were referring to when you said “like you”. Riiight. Because someone who has no idea what I’m talking about (making alts) would respond with: > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I do pretty well at it, it’s kinda needed when you want traders in multiple coalitions that are at war. And > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Not at all, I didn’t (and still don’t) know what you were referring to when you said “like you”. Of course I make trading alts You got caught. No amount of back peddling and playing the “I don’t know what you’re on about” card is going to erase that. ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/821 "2022-09-27T15:16:26Z")
Well as long as you’re not accusing me of being an alt, that’s fine, because I’m definitely not. Whoever that other person is though, they sound like an absolute genius and just the type of person the developers should listen to. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/822 "2022-09-27T15:35:02Z")
See, now I think you’re just trolling for the lolz. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/824 "2022-09-27T15:47:36Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > sound like an absolute genius and just the type of person the developers should listen to. Lucas **and only** Lucas would say that caught red handed 🤣 🤣 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/826 "2022-09-27T15:52:06Z")
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