# Shooting player’s spaceships in EvE is not toxic behavior

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 7, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137 "2022-09-07T16:04:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/855 "2022-09-27T20:01:19Z")

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Who’s doing the afk mining while you’re writing posts ? Natalie ? 🤣

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/856 "2022-09-27T20:02:49Z")

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Does your Main know that you are here?

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/857 "2022-09-27T20:03:41Z")

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Don’t interrupt the out-of-clone escapade, please.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/858 "2022-09-27T20:07:29Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> Again, they’ll read it’s not true.
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> Imagine actually wasting your life desperately trying to wind someone up on a forum. That’s literally all you do, you get that right? You spend all day sitting there trying to trigger me because you’re so butthurt that I dared to have an opinion you disagree with.

ROFL. My guy, you are the content 😃

Its ok bro. Just know I’m giggling over here 😃

_Also_ did you find it on the box or

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/859 "2022-09-27T20:11:02Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> You spend all day sitting there trying to trigger me

You girls still fighting?

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/f/2/af2cfbe4c587aed2094d2e8dbe9479c25c7b8458.gif)

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/860 "2022-09-27T20:12:24Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> _Also_ did you find it on the box or

There’s no touching the box !!  
 ![useless-box-robot](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/b/f/dbf31ad36d2d87e79cab140bf4244cb8fd581141.gif)

Nor reading of manuals !!  
 ![KWjZH-](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/4/7/e47ef7e38fac83f3edbad01863a027cc62eb4982.gif)

Those are the two main reasons why some people may be under the regrettable illusion that shooting players’ ships in EvE is toxic behavior (to stay on topic)

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/862 "2022-09-27T20:17:38Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> You girls still fighting?

I’m certainly _giggling_ 😃

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> Kinda runs itself, that’s why it’s AFK. Who’s Natalie?

Oh. So you found it on the box where it says being AFK is a core tenet of EVE right.

Right 😃

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/863 "2022-09-27T20:24:51Z")

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Being labeled as toxic to shoot at other Capsuleer’s ships (_Highsec_) being the victim is the same as winning as it means that both are playing the “_I Must Win_” Card. When playing the victim or even losing with good sportsman/sportswoman like is the same as winning. You might not had won via any isk or space cred value but you would have won by gaining experience. That is a higher goal in New Eden as we all seen the Learning Curve picture mock up of what it must be like to the new Capsuleer.

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/864 "2022-09-27T20:25:43Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> Whose Natalie?

Why, yours !

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/866 "2022-09-27T20:29:05Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> Oh? Is it so far fetched to believe my bro? You literally made an alpha account to grief her in game.

I don’t quite think he made the account to “grief” her, as mere annoyance isn’t griefing.

Here’s what grinds me about this, though. He’s spent multiple posts talking about how good he is, but the extent of his challenge to another player is limited to making a throwaway alt and showing up in a trash frigate. For all of that talk about being this massive trader in multiple alliances, playing since the early days, having nearly limitless money and resources to “replace entire fleets within a day,” he can’t even man up enough to bring a decent ship, or even a couple, to challenge another player to some form of armed conflict.

And the rest of them are the same, too. Between Razorcock’s impotent locking/orbiting with an interceptor, to Dracvlad’s talk about "intentionally feeding some ships (as “moral victory insurance” of sorts in case he’d somehow actually get caught by some war targets), all of these turbo-bears prioritize not losing a single ISK out of their wallets over literally everything else in the game.

It’s just all so really sad. It’s genuinely difficult to observe this level of cringe without having some kind of physical, shudder-like reaction.

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/868 "2022-09-27T20:34:44Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> My what?

I think you call them “monkeys” ?

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/869 "2022-09-27T20:36:19Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> I don’t quite think he made the account to “grief” her, as mere annoyance isn’t griefing.

Oh I get what you’re saying, but I fully believe his intent was to grief because he also began to target her alliance mates in an attempt to hurt her.

I just think he got too emotional and didn’t think of the fall out 😃

> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> For all of that talk about being this massive trader in multiple alliances, playing since the early days, having nearly limitless money and resources to “replace entire fleets within a day,”

Remember he also has mysterious gank alts!

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> Your sexist remarks aside it has nothing to do with wealth or courage. It’s entirely to do with effort. She called me out, I wasn’t planning on going but I have an order monkey nearby so I flew over in whatever he had in stock. That’s all. You act like it was some grand gesture.

ROFL. You weren’t planning on going, but you used a locator agent.

Pure ROLF man 😃

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**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/871 "2022-09-27T20:43:36Z")

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Ok… now I’m officially engaging in ganking.  
Some comments here… made me wanna!

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/872 "2022-09-27T20:44:18Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> my terminology is that alts are alts

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/0/3/203fc7ba76bef7e22124e543a57f85f2a788b131.jpeg)  
🤣

> [@Xucca](#):
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> Some comments here… made me wanna!

I fully understand and support your reaction to these posts and threads. Lucas is the biggest boost that ganking has had in years.

pewpew  
o7

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/873 "2022-09-27T20:45:49Z")

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> [@Xucca](#):
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> Ok… now I’m officially engaging in ganking.  
> Some comments here… made me wanna!

I encourage you to try it out.

You’ll see how most HS players have terrible game sense 😃

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**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/874 "2022-09-27T20:55:09Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> I encourage you to try it out.

Maybe I’ve tried.. whadayano…

But his time I feel motivated!

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/f/a/7faac4b2d4b1bcb3a2cc3f79d45a826c44a4ef38.jpeg)  
MUST PEW WHINERS

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/875 "2022-09-27T20:59:30Z")

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> [@Xucca](#):
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> Maybe I’ve tried… whadayano…
> 
> But his time I feel motivated!

It can be quite profitable if you got multiple accounts to scoop the loot!

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/876 "2022-09-27T21:04:55Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> Your sexist remarks aside it has nothing to do with wealth or courage. It’s entirely to do with effort. She called me out, I wasn’t planning on going but I have an order monkey nearby so I flew over in whatever he had in stock. That’s all. You act like it was some grand gesture.

I know that you’re probably thinking that this is some kind of QED “checkmate, griefers 😏” moment for you, but to everyone else here, it sounds like you’re just making excuses. At least your redshirt pal has the common sense to stop talking and skulk away when someone rightfully calls him a wussy, but you talk a _lot_ of ■■■■ about how good you are, and never do a single thing to actually prove it.

Why even bother to have these arguments? You’re not going to win any if everyone but like two people thinks that you’re a joke, and you can’t really troll others by sticking a fork in your own kidneys either, so what exactly is the end goal here?

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/877 "2022-09-27T21:12:29Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> Where did I lie?

The system wont let me quote 783 posts.

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shooting-player-s-spaceships-in-eve-is-not-toxic-behavior/376137/879 "2022-09-27T21:24:11Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> Entertainment.

At the expense of other people’s use and enjoyment of the forums ? Wouldn’t that be griefing ?  
Rules don’t apply to you ?

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