# Short Term and Long Term FW Proposal **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Tags:** low-sec, faction-war\ **Created:** [April 2, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/short-term-and-long-term-fw-proposal/149983 "2019-04-02T01:04:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/short-term-and-long-term-fw-proposal/149983/21 "2019-06-22T13:27:15Z")
> [@xxsmokealotxx](#): > > You don’t grow stronger in Eve flying only frigates That may be true, but this is how you begin content escalations and map statistics. Docking might also be a problem for FW when it comes to neutrals, but it will force a fight, rather than just tethering up on a citadel. ---
**Author:** ![xxsmokealotxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxsmokealotxx/32/142609_2.png) [@xxsmokealotxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxsmokealotxx)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/short-term-and-long-term-fw-proposal/149983/22 "2019-06-22T14:32:46Z")
Not sure what you mean. This only affects NPC stations and not citadels. NPC stations don’t have tether. And not being able to dock on them doesn’t force any fights, it’s more the opposite… ---
**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/short-term-and-long-term-fw-proposal/149983/23 "2019-06-22T18:10:07Z")
When you are roaming enemy controlled space, where else can you dock except in Upwell structures? And what is the opposite? Your gang never been chased through multiple systems before? ---
**Author:** ![xxsmokealotxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxsmokealotxx/32/142609_2.png) [@xxsmokealotxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxsmokealotxx)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/short-term-and-long-term-fw-proposal/149983/24 "2019-06-22T23:08:04Z")
Opposite is not getting content because living in lowsec is annoying without using citadels for FW groups. Without restrictions you would have more groups living in lowsec. ---
**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/short-term-and-long-term-fw-proposal/149983/25 "2019-06-23T03:57:36Z")
So long as the entire idea of FW is based off of system control, accessibility to systems is relevant and loss of access is the only remedy. Don’t want to lose access, don’t lose your system. ---
**Author:** ![xxsmokealotxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxsmokealotxx/32/142609_2.png) [@xxsmokealotxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxsmokealotxx)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/short-term-and-long-term-fw-proposal/149983/26 "2019-06-23T10:45:12Z")
You don’t really lose access because you can still use alts to dock. Or you can drop from FW to gain access. It’s just annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/short-term-and-long-term-fw-proposal/149983/27 "2019-06-23T10:59:31Z")
Annoying is better than nothing. You’re going to use an alt to eject from every ship you need in an enemy controlled system? Destroy a ton of rigs to repackage your moved ships? Regardless of small ways around it, it is still a hindrance. One that makes a difference. ---
**Author:** ![xxsmokealotxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxsmokealotxx/32/142609_2.png) [@xxsmokealotxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxsmokealotxx)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/short-term-and-long-term-fw-proposal/149983/28 "2019-06-23T19:02:41Z")
Annoying is just annoying. You can drop from FW without any penalties. Or switch to enemy side. ---
**Author:** ![LouHodo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/louhodo/32/109593_2.png) [@LouHodo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LouHodo)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/short-term-and-long-term-fw-proposal/149983/29 "2019-06-24T04:05:10Z")
Seeing as FW has been used by many of the nullsec blobs as a place to put alts to just farm LP for easy isk. I really think their should be HARSHER penalties for switching sides in FW. And remove the whole massive LP payout from missions in FW. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/short-term-and-long-term-fw-proposal/149983/30 "2019-09-22T04:13:20Z")
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