# Should 1 man corps be banned?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 10, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116 "2019-05-10T17:01:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/202 "2019-05-11T12:06:47Z")

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> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#):
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> If you want to be solo then play an offline game.  
> Wouldn’t you agree?

Utter nonsense - solo players interact with others every time they buy, or sell, or take part in PvP.

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/203 "2019-05-11T12:19:12Z")

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> [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#):
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> > If you want to be solo then play an offline game.  
> > Wouldn’t you agree?
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> Utter nonsense - solo players interact with others every time they buy, or sell, or take part in PvP.

Bro, welcome to the thread. I’ve already posted a summary and conclusion above though. Arguments already over.

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/204 "2019-05-11T12:25:12Z")

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> **[War Declaration Changes - The War Adjacent to Christmas | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/article/pjblu1/war-declaration-changes-the-war-adjacent-to-christmas)**
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> Check out this dev blog for the latest information on the changes coming to war declarations with the December release next week!

  
Go read and learn.

@Uriel_the_Flame I’m very bemused by it to, and a little disturbed that people feel the need to invent stories like that in order to try and discredit people also.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/205 "2019-05-11T12:37:21Z")

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Did you even read that? wow…here, I’ll quote it for you:

> - All Upwell Structures (including Upwell FLEX structures)
> - **Starbase Control Towers**
> - **Player-owned Customs Offices**
> - **Sovereignty Structures (Infrastructure Hubs and Territorial Control Units)**

I don’t have to discredit you at all as you keep doing that to yourself.

So to reiterate, to be an ally, you DON"T need to own a station/citadel and can aid anyone that asks such as you 1 person corp running a station. I know this because this is EXACTLY what I do. I have a cheap stick in space that nobody is going to touch as it’s worthless…and I am war eligible.

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/206 "2019-05-11T12:39:39Z")

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I said you have to be war eligible to ally.  
Not that you have to own a citadel.  
Seriously, stop trying to invent stuff to justify your mistake.

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/207 "2019-05-11T12:43:02Z")

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Seriously Runa, you’re starting to make me look bad as a troll. I thought I was on the winning side of the debate, but now your confusing me even. 🤣

\*Sheepishly wanders over to the other side…

+1 Nevyn  
-1 Runa

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/208 "2019-05-11T12:50:36Z")

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> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#):
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> One man corps in the very form you indicate serve no role or purpose to satisfy the game.

One might argue that this thread also serves no role or purpose to satisfy the game 😛

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/209 "2019-05-11T12:52:43Z")

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Ok…I’ll try this again…

Corp owns 10 station in a system but realizes just how vulnerable that makes them.  
They create 10 alts and skill them to be able to run the stations. One for each.  
Each Alt is not tied to the corp in any visible way.  
Each alt starts their own corp.  
The stations are sold/given (or whatever) to each alt.

Now you have a corp that is NOT wardec eligible and whose 10 stations are seemingly independent.  
Here is the ally part…

The MAIN corp just needs a simple cheap structure somewhere out of the way and they become wardec eligible and more importantly, able to ally.

> huge downsides when it comes to defending them

Nope…

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/210 "2019-05-11T12:54:57Z")

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> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> Now you have a corp that is NOT wardec eligible and whose 10 stations are seemingly independent.  
> Here is the ally part…
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> The MAIN corp just needs a simple cheap structure somewhere out of the way and they become wardec eligible and more importantly, able to ally.

So they aren’t wardec eligible but are wardec eligible…  
Wow… You really don’t even read what you write do you.

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**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/211 "2019-05-11T12:55:24Z")

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Was about to write a paragraph about eve being a sandbox and how that relates to an _“overarching purpose”_, but I think you can see where I was going with this.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/212 "2019-05-11T12:56:51Z")

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> So they aren’t wardec eligible but are wardec eligible…  
> Wow… You really don’t even read what you write do you.

If they get a small structure out of the way…what part of that do you not understand?

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/213 "2019-05-11T12:58:21Z")

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At which point they are wardec eligible so they aren’t hiding in any kind of safety…  
So there is no problem.  
Either the pilots are vulnerable due to wardec or the structures are vulnerable because you can’t ally in. Either way something is vulnerable.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/214 "2019-05-11T13:00:54Z")

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> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#):
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> At which point they are wardec eligible so they aren’t hiding in any kind of safety…

But their assets ARE safe as now you have 11 separate entities where as before you just had 1.

So if the MAIN corp is wardecced, their 10 stations are safe. If a single station is wardecced then the other 9 are safe and so is the MAIN corp who can choose to ally or not.

win win win and no huge downside that I can see…that in my opinion is an exploit.

This is why there are so, SO many single person corps with stations now.

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/215 "2019-05-11T13:06:14Z")

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No. because you can just wardec all 11. It just adds a little expense.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/216 "2019-05-11T13:12:10Z")

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If they were originally going for one station (say a moon for mining) they would have wardecced that owner and then realized that 9 other stations were owned by the same corp. So they would have had 10 stations to attack plus the corp pilots in the system/area.

Now with the current system, they wardec that one station and that’s it. They either kill the station or the MAIN corp allies in to help but the other 9 stations are nice and safe.

I am saying all this as a past station basher so…I’ve been around this block a few times.

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/217 "2019-05-11T13:15:03Z")

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Runa you’re not making any sense.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/218 "2019-05-11T13:16:09Z")

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That is a possibility but help me out…what part am I screwing-up?

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/219 "2019-05-11T13:18:44Z")

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He was basically saying to be an ally you need to be war eligible, and you disagreed. I think you meant to agree but you were thinking of some other point to make, which wasn’t the whole point of what you two were initially arguing over.

Either way I get both of your points now. At least I think I do.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/220 "2019-05-11T13:21:52Z")

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I think this step I missed is that when he said “you need to be war eligible”, the point I was trying (and failed) to make was that your corp could hide all those stations safely and still retail a war footing with a POS or customs office…nothing tied to any of those original stations.

But ya, I see where I glossed over that part…

As punishment I will go mine for a bit…veldspar…bleh. 🤮

But at no point in all of this has it ever been shown how there is not a huge downside for the defender…which was his original point.

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/221 "2019-05-11T13:23:38Z")

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Yeh I realized it wasn’t an intentional mistake. Your arguments are always solid.

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