# Should 1 man corps be banned?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 10, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116 "2019-05-10T17:01:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/322 "2019-05-22T18:33:02Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> You on the other hand seem to revel in making controversial and somewhat disruptive posts designed to provoke people. Some would call this trolling.
> 
> Physician heal thyself.

Right.

> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> You give YOUR reasons for the idea, many of us have given OUR reasons against it.

So what are they?

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**Author:** ![Rich\_Darine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rich_darine/32/438327_2.png) [@Rich\_Darine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rich_Darine)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/323 "2019-05-22T18:33:07Z")

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Ugh why did I watch that Human Centipede trailer? I knew better too, and I just had to watch it.

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/324 "2019-05-22T18:35:38Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Or if you want to only focus on ‘executive member’, I would have to tell the corp I’m spying in that I cannot get an executive role in their corp because my main is already an executive in another corporation that they did not yet know about?

That’s correct.

> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Sounds like a bad idea.

I’m sorry you feel that way.

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**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/325 "2019-05-22T18:35:51Z")

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I use multiple one-person corps to store my 100+ bil in isk.

It would be nice if Dev created multiple player wallets though, so I would have less reason to clutter up,… the corp list. 😬

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/326 "2019-05-22T18:38:37Z")

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So let me explain myself: by balanced I mean a reply that is consistent with the way a civilised discussion goes, that’s all.

“I don’t like your idea because it’s a bad idea and will change everything…”

Is not that.

Also, I only respond to posts that are interesting in how they relate to the topic of the discussion.

If I find a post to be irrelevant I will not respond to that player.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/327 "2019-05-22T19:00:18Z")

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> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#):
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> So let me explain myself: by balanced I mean a reply that is consistent with the way a civilised discussion goes, that’s all.
> 
> “I don’t like your idea because it’s a bad idea and will change everything…”
> 
> Is not that.

True enough, I don’t like your idea because:

It forces people who wish to follow a solo playstyle to remain in an NPC corp, which restricts the choice of solo playstyles available to them, at least in hisec. IMO NPC corps have their own problems anyway.

Being in a one man corp has its advantages, tax, wallet divisions and corp hangars being the most obvious. Many one man corps are fronts for industrialists, being able to have the game do the work sorting out the books leaves more time for actually playing the game. Spreadsheets are handy tools, but nobody should be forced to use them in order to track their transactions, profits etc.

A one man corp isn’t always a solo player, active players are often socially active in game and may well team up with other like minded individuals to achieve a common goal once in a while.

TL;DR your proposal removes freedom, ergo it isn’t going to appeal to many.

> Also, I only respond to posts that _ **I think** _ are interesting in how they relate to the topic of the discussion.

FTFY

> If _ **I find** _ a post to be irrelevant I will not respond to that player.

And therein is why you get a hostile response from many.

Objectively, what you find to be interesting or irrelevant is entirely subjective on your part; the same as everybody else.

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/328 "2019-05-22T19:14:06Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> And therein is why you get a hostile response from many.
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> Objectively, what you find to be interesting or irrelevant is entirely subjective on your part; the same as everybody else.

It’s my thread.

Stop wasting your effort in rubbish counter arguments and opposition and just be civil.

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/329 "2019-05-22T19:17:17Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Being in a one man corp has its advantages, tax, wallet divisions and corp hangars being the most obvious. Many one man corps are fronts for industrialists, being able to have the game do the work sorting out the books leaves more time for actually playing the game. Spreadsheets are handy tools, b

None of your answers qualify: a corp is meant to be a multiplayer experience not a single man and his pet dog.

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**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/330 "2019-05-22T19:27:22Z")

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Your statement here is totally false and not in line with comments by Devs in the past.

My belief that you are actually trolling is getting stronger.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/331 "2019-05-22T19:31:28Z")

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> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#):
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> It’s my thread.

No, it’s not.

You posted it on a forum, the moment you did so it became accessible, and open for posting, to anybody who has a forum account.

The only ownership you have here is the content of your own posts; and that’s debatable according to the eula.

> Stop wasting your effort in rubbish counter arguments and opposition.

Do you know how a forum works and what its purpose is?

I oppose, ergo I post.

> and just be civil.

I am being civil, I have been polite, I have made my opinion known; disagreement is not uncivil, it is discussion.

When I am not being civil to you, you will know it.

> None of your answers qualify: a corp is meant to be a multiplayer experience not a single man and his pet dog.

I disagree with your opinion, which is what this is.

Nowhere does it say a corp is meant to be a multiplayer experience, as far as mechanics are concerned they used to there to open you up to wardecs, amongst a few other things that have changed in the not so distant past.

What makes a corp is what people do with them, a solo corp can have just as large a visible and direct impact as one with 40 people.

A corp is a general purpose tool, some use it to take part in shared multiplayer experiences, others use it to make their own way through Eve.

Who are you to suggest that only the people that wish to take part in shared multiplayer experiences get to use it?

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**Author:** ![Glathull](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glathull/32/234710_2.png) [@Glathull](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glathull)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/332 "2019-05-22T20:12:49Z")

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You’re never playing alone when you’re playing with yourself.

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/333 "2019-05-22T20:59:13Z")

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> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#):
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> not a single man and his pet dog.

Fedo

**Fedo!**

This is EvE, after all.

and what does the relationship status of the player have to do with it anyway?

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/334 "2019-05-22T21:04:47Z")

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Lol we both sound like we’re trying to make the same point. Let’s just stop and be civil bruh. Ok?

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**Author:** ![Colinde\_s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/colinde_s/32/419040_2.png) [@Colinde\_s](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Colinde_s)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/335 "2019-05-23T08:19:49Z")

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Just stop. You lost this.

> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#):
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> Lol we both sound like we’re trying to make the same point. Let’s just stop and be civil bruh. Ok?

He is being civil. Very in fact.  
Just to let you know.

And so has a lot of other people.  
Your idea is unpopular. Period. The entire thread is filled with counter-arguments to your suggestion. There is a big diversity in the arguments people are using against your suggestion.

Let me quickly analyze the overall strength of your stance:  
First of all you, repeatedly, stated that you don’t think 1 man corps are bad, but that they don’t add anything. Ok. First of all, if it aint bad, and adds nothing, then it must be a neutral thing to you.  
And then you mentions “Privilege” as an argument. Hogwash. I trust my earlier replies solidly put that argument to rest.

So. You are vague in the reasoning for your suggestion, at best.

And no.. Just because people oppose your suggestion, hard, doesn’t meant they aren’t engaging in the discussion in a civil manner.

We could just leave the thread, and you would have no one to complain to.  
Just saying..  
And no. You aren’t winning arguments buy grasping after every option to use semantics to twist your arguments after the fact. It’s tiring to watch say the least.

I know this got a pit personal, but it is not intended to hit you as a person. It is intended to hit the discourse tactics you are using. You are probably a nice and clever guy, but you come across as stubborn and unable to see things in any other way than your own. (You come across as. Not that you are)

Fly safe sir o7

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/336 "2019-05-23T08:35:26Z")

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I really do not like this suggestion, because as other have pointed out it is a sandbox and you should be able to create any sandcastle you want with the understanding that some large muscular chap(s) will come along and kick it down.

There are other reasons to want to be in your own corp and interaction with the wrong type of player is high on that list. And it does not necessarily mean in game persona either.

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/337 "2019-05-23T10:21:14Z")

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> [@Colinde\_s](#):
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> Just stop. You lost this.
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> ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/3/13bab85d533f91fe768c41bbba01154dd17ce683.jpeg) Natocha\_Daisy:
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> > Lol we both sound like we’re trying to make the same point. Let’s just stop and be civil bruh. Ok?
> 
> He is being civil. Very in fact.  
> Just to let you know.
> 
> And so has a lot of other people.  
> Your idea is unpopular. Period. The entire thread is filled with counter-arguments to your suggestion. There is a big diversity in the arguments people are using against your suggestion.

WOW: why so hostile? lol, just calm down this is merely a friendly discussion! If my idea is unpopular that’s FINE - but I still would like to see a discussion and reasons added to statements and opinions. It makes forum threads more interesting to read 😅

> [@Colinde\_s](#):
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> Let me quickly analyze the overall strength of your stance:  
> First of all you, repeatedly, stated that you don’t think 1 man corps are bad, but that they don’t add anything. Ok. First of all, if it aint bad, and adds nothing, then it must be a neutral thing to you.

I never claimed one man corps are ‘bad’.

> [@Colinde\_s](#):
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> So. You are vague in the reasoning for your suggestion, at best.

That’s a matter of your thoughts and nothing to do with this topic. Just state your opinion on the topic at issue, and keep to that okay?

> [@Colinde\_s](#):
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> It’s tiring to watch say the least.

then don’t watch.

> [@Colinde\_s](#):
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> I know this got a pit personal, but it is not intended to hit you as a person. It is intended to hit the discourse tactics you are using. You are probably a nice and clever guy, but you come across as stubborn and unable to see things in any other way than your own. (You come across as. Not that you are)
> 
> Fly safe sir o7

You definitely woke up on the wrong side of bed, or are in need of coffee.

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/338 "2019-05-23T10:24:04Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> There are other reasons to want to be in your own corp and interaction with the wrong type of player is high on that list. And it does not necessarily mean in game persona either.

Hello, welcome to the discussion. I think you’re missing the point of my argument - that a one-man-corp is an exploitation of a game feature that is meant to be for multiplayer purposes.

Let’s discuss.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/339 "2019-05-23T10:25:54Z")

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> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#):
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> that is meant to be for multiplayer purposes.

Are you sure about that? For example people were not supposed to set up shop in WH space but they did. Would you ban people from setting up shop in WH space now?

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/340 "2019-05-23T10:31:35Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> > that is meant to be for multiplayer purposes.
> 
> Are you sure about that? For example people were not supposed to set up shop in WH space but they did. Would you ban people from setting up shop in WH space now?

Huh? Wormhole space is separate from this discussion. It’s great that players are allowed to set up shop in w-space, although I don’t really see the point since it’s so out-of-reach from most sec.

Are you sure that thousands of single player corporations is a good representation of how a successful multiplayer game should operate?

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/341 "2019-05-23T10:33:58Z")

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> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#):
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> Huh? Wormhole space is separate from this discussion. It’s great that players are allowed to set up shop in w-space, although I don’t really see the point since it’s so out-of-reach from most sec.

You said that it was meant to be for multiplayer purposes and while I don’t disagree with that statement as such I am pointing out that game play develops from that. So if you use the same logic for one man corps it can be applied elsewhere.

> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#):
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> Are you sure that thousands of single player corporations is a good representation of how a successful multiplayer game should operate?

Yes it is, because people have choices to do what they want to do within their own play style and in any case I am always exposed to interaction even if I am in a one man corp and cannot be war decked, I can still be ganked.

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