# Should 1 man corps be banned?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 10, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116 "2019-05-10T17:01:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/81 "2019-05-10T21:58:39Z")

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> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#):
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> Should they be banned?

Yes as they are there just act as a placeholder for a station while the main group of corp members operate under the “wardec ineligible” status. It’s a joke and a giant loophole.

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**Author:** ![Scarlett\_LaBlanc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlett_lablanc/32/358434_2.png) [@Scarlett\_LaBlanc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlett_LaBlanc)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/82 "2019-05-10T22:03:27Z")

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While that is one possible use of a one man Corp, surely your not suggesting it’s the only use?

Understand your frustration with the “station placeholder” corps, but the solution is easy. Wardec the placeholder.

The main Corp will have to join the war or you can burn down a structure they won’t be able to defend.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/83 "2019-05-10T22:06:20Z")

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> [@Scarlett\_LaBlanc](#):
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> Wardec the placeholder.

…but you never know who the real owner is. THAT is what a placeholder is for as it hides the asset.

A corp could own 10 stations in a system and have 10 different owners that you would need to Wardec rather than just having all 10 station become eligible for attack.

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**Author:** ![Scarlett\_LaBlanc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlett_lablanc/32/358434_2.png) [@Scarlett\_LaBlanc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlett_LaBlanc)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/84 "2019-05-10T22:10:30Z")

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> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> you never know who the real owner is

The vast majority of corporations use their structures.

Cloak up and sit outside and watch who comes and goes. Finding the owner Corp is not hard, just takes some effort

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/86 "2019-05-10T22:13:40Z")

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Ugh c’mon Scoots the whole point of this thread is as a question not a proposal to change the game.

Simply say yes or no and state your reason.

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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/87 "2019-05-10T22:14:58Z")

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> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#):
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> The costs should be the same as running a station which is impossible to do solo unless you have a rich daddy.

LOL Impossible to do solo? I beg to differ… with the amount of isk flowing though my wallet on daily basis I could have easily run at least 10 stations just fine. IIRC the cost of operating single one was about 2M/d … may as well support 100 of them. At a minimum.

Not everyone is as inept as you when it comes to generating isk.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/88 "2019-05-10T22:16:11Z")

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> [@Scarlett\_LaBlanc](#):
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> The vast majority of corporations use their structures.

Actually no they don’t. There are a ton of station that just sit there doing nothing, many on low power.

But you missed the point. Even if I found the corp that was using that one station, I would have to do the same for ALL stations in the system (and surrounding systems too) to see what they actually own.

You can’t do this in the real world (hiding assets) and you shouldn’t se able to do it here either.

EDIT: Also, many stations are open to the public and you would be hard presses to see who actually owns it just by watching traffic.

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**Author:** ![Rich\_Darine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rich_darine/32/438327_2.png) [@Rich\_Darine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rich_Darine)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/89 "2019-05-10T23:47:24Z")

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I created my own corporation because NPC corporations are lame and the player corporations in FW are inactive or have childish, not immersive names.

I dunno that I’ll ever bother with recruitment between my real life school and work but I like the corp I made for myself an I don’t need friends

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/90 "2019-05-11T02:21:18Z")

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This thread should be banned.

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/91 "2019-05-11T02:54:37Z")

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Trader character+wallet divisions = happiness

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**Author:** ![Venalicius\_Nalelmir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/venalicius_nalelmir/32/175717_2.png) [@Venalicius\_Nalelmir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Venalicius_Nalelmir)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/92 "2019-05-11T03:02:42Z")

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I 100% disagree that they are not useful and that they should be banned. One of my alts is in a 1 man Corp. And why -

Because it is my high sec run around. It goes to Jita, Amarr and anywhere in high sec I need it to. I use it to 1 - easily avoid war decs now, 2 - it does all the things in high sec for my main’s corporation that I’m a director of. This includes market buy & sell orders, hauling to our jump freighter routes to reduce the risk of JF ganks and being able to do that even while my main Corp is at war. The wallet divisions that a Corp allows, lets me also keep all the isk flowing into the correct wallets to coincide with my main’s Corp so that it’s simply a matter of transferring the ISK over without having to calculate how much I need to put into each wallet after the transfer.

I fail to see how this is detrimental to the game. In fact, I see it as the exact opposite. That 1 man Corp is contributing to the economy, and is not denying anyone in EvE of anything. Except for maybe the War-dec’ers of their easy freighter / jump freighters kills.

Edit - on top of that, the Corp channel MOTD - that is handy to change and keep links to stations / items etc that I constantly use without having to type it in each time or find it some way or another.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/93 "2019-05-11T03:05:52Z")

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> [@Venalicius\_Nalelmir](#):
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> I fail to see how this is detrimental to the game.

So you think a corp hiding assets and operating safely in HS is fine? You can’t think of a possible way that would be abused?

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**Author:** ![Kynami\_Vaille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kynami_vaille/32/229160_2.png) [@Kynami\_Vaille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kynami_Vaille)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/94 "2019-05-11T03:11:50Z")

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Ever heard of a holding corp? Where one alt holds down the structures and maintains the ACL for other alts or even multiple actual players to be able to utilize the structure without being personally wardec vulnerable.

If all you are maintaining is a Raitaru for a couple basic services in a system without or with incredibly limited NPC stations in high-sec. Sure you may occasionally have to either protect the structure or just shrug and eat a half bil to billion isk loss but with how quickly you can just plop another structure down and force people to repeatedly have to grind timers for dirt cheap. Meanwhile your actual services characters can happily just keep doing their thing unless the other guys are willing to eat Concordekken costs to forcibly evict you from system temporarily.

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**Author:** ![Venalicius\_Nalelmir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/venalicius_nalelmir/32/175717_2.png) [@Venalicius\_Nalelmir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Venalicius_Nalelmir)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/95 "2019-05-11T03:12:20Z")

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Oh I can. But it’s EvE after all. And as with all players with half a brain, I will use the mechanics provided within the game to do things, and if that’s in my favour, then even better.

Edit: And this even happens IRL too. Transferring assets between corporations for 1 reason or another, some of which may not be legal, but it does happen.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/96 "2019-05-11T03:14:07Z")

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Ah ok so this _is_ all about you then. I was just checking. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Venalicius\_Nalelmir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/venalicius_nalelmir/32/175717_2.png) [@Venalicius\_Nalelmir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Venalicius_Nalelmir)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/97 "2019-05-11T03:16:29Z")

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It could be about you too, if you chose to use the same mechanics. But hey, if it’s not your thing, that’s cool too. Sorry I’m keeping my assets in a place that’s harder for you to pew pew.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/98 "2019-05-11T03:17:20Z")

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So a NPC station is not safe all of a sudden?

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/99 "2019-05-11T03:20:15Z")

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I fail to see how NPC stations come into this discussion when it has noting to do with them. And they aren’t in a station when they are in the cargo hold of a ship that’s hauling them are they? which is one of the reasons I use my 1 man Corp for.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/100 "2019-05-11T03:21:58Z")

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> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#):
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> Why are they useful?

For the same reason people register one-man companies in real life, maybe? It’s a way to keep your business separate from your personal life. Or for some just a way to legitimately get that CEO title - no one has to know you’re the boss of a one-man outfit.

In-game, well, EVE isn’t the only MMO where players use one-man guilds for some reason. All sorts of business tycoons have these ran by an alt (or two) so they can get extra storage etc and not have their main character associated with it if someone gets upset at their business practices. You might as well ask why players are allowed to have more than one account, tbh. Why is it needed when it doesn’t really increase the number of players?

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/101 "2019-05-11T03:22:28Z")

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> [@Venalicius\_Nalelmir](#):
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> I fail to see how NPC stations come into this discussion

You said “I’m keeping my assets in a place that’s harder for you to pew pew”

A NPC corp is 100% as safe as a 1 man corp in regards to safety. THAT is why I asked. So again, how is that safer?

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