# Should 1 man corps be banned? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 10, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116 "2019-05-10T17:01:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/162 "2019-05-11T09:22:29Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > The value of one man corps is subjective, many of us see great utility in their existence; the OP does not. CORRECTION: OP has taken the position of being on the ‘against’ side for purposes of this discussion. This is merely a discussion or argument Jonah. Now don’t get it twisted. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Furthermore the OP implies that one man corps are selfish asocial constructs, which may well be true of some; however, it is not true of all. OP writes in summary of the position in most of the responses to this thread that the reasons put for wanting a one man corp qualify as selfish reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Drx\_Drx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drx_drx/32/383107_2.png) [@Drx\_Drx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drx_Drx)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/163 "2019-05-11T09:23:18Z")
Ill join a player corp when i find a good one. Being in a solo corp or in a npc corp hasnt prevented me from flying with other people and making friends all over eve. ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/164 "2019-05-11T09:39:21Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > What would you like to see added as basic requirment? -at least 1 million sp -a pop up message on opening the corp: You must ensure you recruit an Accountant and Director within the next 14 days. If you are unable to then this corporation will enter shutdown mode. Any facilities owned by this corporation when shutdown initiates will be transferred to CCP Holdings until you are able to reinstate your corporation by meeting the minimum recruitment quota. -if you want to get your corp back from CCP Holdings you must pay the release fee. -Players who have a corp that has been transferred to CCP Holdings CANNOT open a new corp. -CANNOT anchor ANY structure unless corp has a minimum of 10 players (must include a Director and maybe two other important corp roles). -No access to more than 1 corp wallet UNLESS an accountant has been recruited. -No access to more than 1 station hangar UNLESS a director has been recruited. - you get access to +1 corp wallet and station hangar every 3-5 members recruited. -corporation gets shutdown if nobody comes online in a month. -corporation base tax of 2% depending on the Empire owning the station where you opened your corp. -opening fee must vary between regions or across empires: could be between 2.5 mil in easy highsec systems to 150 mil in NPC null. -Monthly corp administrative fee also based on region. -CCP will introduce benefits for corp owners based on the tax rate. For example a deduction in tax if you recruit more corp members, and lower resource costs to blueprints for NPC null corps with higher tax bands. ---
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/165 "2019-05-11T09:57:24Z")
> [@Drx\_Drx](#): > > Being in a solo corp or in a npc corp hasnt prevented me from flying with other people and making friends all over eve. Me too! They are conflating 1-character corporations with “solo” play. But there are lots of “solo” players in NPC corporations and even in . . . Goonswarm. lol Honestly, I hate to keep bringing up the Goons, but they are a very useful example. I have seen Goons that played “solo”. There are people in the State War Academy, with its thousand+ active members, that play “solo”. And, conversely, there are characters in 1-man corps that do pirate alliance logistics and scout for supercapital fleets. 1-man corps are not necessarily about “solo” gameplay. Eliminating them or making them prohibitive is not a nerf to “solo” gameplay. And, I put “solo” in quotation marks, because nobody really plays solo in EVE. “You are not alone in space.” - Hikaru Sulu ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/166 "2019-05-11T10:01:29Z")
And eve if they play solo so what? Should it be not allowed to play solo in an MMO game? (And just disregard the part you rightfully mention that even solo players encounter others as well, so the above question is as if one can play completely solo.) ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/167 "2019-05-11T10:22:03Z")
When you assert that people’s reasons are not good enough, you are not merely taking a side on a discussion. You are telling them their reason is invalid simply because you don’t like it. this clearly says you don’t see value and you aren’t interested in counter opinions. ---
**Author:** ![Owen\_Levanth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/owen_levanth/32/379056_2.png) [@Owen\_Levanth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Owen_Levanth)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/168 "2019-05-11T10:26:24Z")
> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#): > > -at least 1 million sp > -a pop up message on opening the corp: > > You must ensure you recruit an Accountant and Director within the next 14 days. If you are unable to then this corporation will enter shutdown mode. Any facilities owned by this corporation when shutdown initiates will be transferred to CCP Holdings until you are able to reinstate your corporation by meeting the minimum recruitment quota. > > -if you want to get your corp back from CCP Holdings you must pay the release fee. > > -Players who have a corp that has been transferred to CCP Holdings CANNOT open a new corp. > > -CANNOT anchor ANY structure unless corp has a minimum of 10 players (must include a Director and maybe two other important corp roles). > > -No access to more than 1 corp wallet UNLESS an accountant has been recruited. > > -No access to more than 1 station hangar UNLESS a director has been recruited. > > - you get access to +1 corp wallet and station hangar every 3-5 members recruited. > > -corporation gets shutdown if nobody comes online in a month. > > -corporation base tax of 2% depending on the Empire owning the station where you opened your corp. > > -opening fee must vary between regions or across empires: could be between 2.5 mil in easy highsec systems to 150 mil in NPC null. > > -Monthly corp administrative fee also based on region. > > -CCP will introduce benefits for corp owners based on the tax rate. For example a deduction in tax if you recruit more corp members, and lower resource costs to blueprints for NPC null corps with higher tax bands. As fun as it was to read your crazed manifest of ludicrously dumb ideas, now I feel bad because I realized how sad you will feel when you die of old age without any of this stuff ever being implemented by CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/169 "2019-05-11T10:27:01Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > And eve if they play solo so what? Should it be not allowed to play solo in an MMO game? I think this issue here is not being solo or not, it’s owning a corp solo. Which I personally have no problem with (with slight changes) but rather when said single person corps start to own stations. People seem to be getting solo and single person corp tangled where as they are not the same. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/170 "2019-05-11T10:28:29Z")
There is nothing wrong with a single person Corp owning a station… Not that they can own a station of course. Only an upwell structure ---
**Author:** ![Drx\_Drx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drx_drx/32/383107_2.png) [@Drx\_Drx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drx_Drx)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/171 "2019-05-11T10:28:47Z")
Since most players join corps because they are seeking protection in numbers i would say we should eliminate 1000 man corps ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/172 "2019-05-11T10:31:13Z")
The OP and his posts in this thread are not about that. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/173 "2019-05-11T10:32:07Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > There is nothing wrong with a single person Corp owning a station …except for the reasons already mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/174 "2019-05-11T10:35:15Z")
Except for the fact it’s not an exploit. And it comes with huge downsides when it comes to defending them. And said people are most certainly social and playing with others. So… Nothing wrong with a single person Corp owning an upwell structure. ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/175 "2019-05-11T10:48:46Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > The OP and his posts in this thread are not about that. What are they about? ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/176 "2019-05-11T10:50:30Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Nothing wrong with a single person Corp owning an upwell structure. Except for the potential of invalidating this game feature and causing the games social content to be non-viable. ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/177 "2019-05-11T10:52:54Z")
> [@Owen\_Levanth](#): > > As fun as it was to read your crazed manifest of ludicrously dumb ideas, now I feel bad because I realized how sad you will feel when you die of old age without any of this stuff ever being implemented by CCP. It’s not me that’s creating a downward spiral in Eve’s reputation. I’m merely opening up the room for discussion for potential future improvements. ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/178 "2019-05-11T10:56:00Z")
Ok guys, so for the purposes of a balanced forum I’m now transferring myself to the side of being ‘for’ one man corps. Let’s see what influence it has. All my replies from now on will be for this feature to remain. At the end I will offer a summary of my thoughts about both sides and suggest a way forward. That ok with you? ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/179 "2019-05-11T11:01:31Z")
Asserting this doesn’t make it so. Especially since owning a structure specifically exposes one to the social nature of the game. Which… directly contradicts your claims. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/180 "2019-05-11T11:05:04Z")
Sure thing carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116/181 "2019-05-11T11:10:28Z")
Unfortunately, I disagree. These players create filler and make it harder for real corps to establish themselves. It’s why CCP added a vulnerability mode to structures that don’t have the right management ie enough players to keep its services online. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-1-man-corps-be-banned/158116.md?page=10)