# Should life be harder for gankers? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 25, 2024, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832 "2024-02-25T13:26:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/221 "2024-03-05T18:39:25Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > prevent biomassing of -5 characters. so no LS char could ever be biomassed ? … sounds realy silly ! ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/222 "2024-03-05T18:41:07Z")
You can biomass it. Just pay the appropriate fee 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/223 "2024-03-05T18:42:11Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > You can biomass it. Just pay the appropriate fee still > [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > sounds realy silly ! ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/224 "2024-03-05T18:46:58Z")
What is silly about it ? If you want to leave Eve, why would you even care that you’ve left some -5 character behind ? And why else would you want to biomass a -5 character _other_ than to create a new one at 0.0 and avoid the penalty ? ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/225 "2024-03-05T18:50:56Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > What is silly about it ? its cheaper to push your sec status then biomass and create a fresh one ans take your time to skill this one char again to a good ganking char xD results in → nobody ( with brain ) biomass their skilled ganking chars to crerate a new one because of the fresh sec status 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/226 "2024-03-05T18:54:32Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > its cheaper to push your sec status then biomass and create a fresh one ans take your time to skill this one char again to a good ganking char xD > > results in → nobody ( with brain ) biomass their skilled ganking chars to crerate a new one because of the fresh sec status Then what’s the problem if nobody is doing it ? The original claim by Done25 was that people _are_ biomassing ganker chars. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/227 "2024-03-05T18:56:46Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > The original claim by Done25 was that people _are_ biomassing ganker chars. So do you take such words at face value? obviously, this claim is wrong ! ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/228 "2024-03-05T19:03:22Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > So do you take such words at face value? Nooo…there wasn’t a pop up window that gave me an option. ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/229 "2024-03-05T19:30:22Z")
Believe it or not I don’t care, I have friends and meet players from around the world who know me. Plus next month I’ll be at another meet here in the UK. Hotel and restaurant booked. Feel free to join us on discord, some of CCP have and are going along as well. [Discord](https://discord.com/channels/1173601286520836126/1173605589381812346) ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/230 "2024-03-05T19:44:33Z")
I never actually said such, only that I imagine that being the reason why. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/231 "2024-03-05T20:17:40Z")
Sure. Okay. If you say so. But I seriously doubt it. Keep trying tho. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/232 "2024-03-05T20:20:24Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Every single attempt to ‘protect’ people simply ends up making the game more BORING for those who don’t want protecting. And the latter are really your future core players. CCP makes more money when the game is boring. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Sure. No, don’t do it! He’s going to abuse you with his IRL PvP warrior skills. ---
**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/233 "2024-03-06T10:38:48Z")
In New Eden you cannot die because of cloning but your assets can be destroyed, so ganking is a bigger crime than murder and people who do it should become -10 security status instantly. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/234 "2024-03-06T10:52:24Z")
> [@Dchill](#): > > you cannot die because of cloning And what is with all the people working on your ship ? So … i dont think that destroying assets is worse then murdering ! And if you gank then you got punisjed by a sec status loss ! > [@Dchill](#): > > should become -10 security status instantly. Tell us one good reason why ccp should do this ? Ganking isnt anything else then shooting ppl in low sec … the only difference is, that concord isnt in low sec so the attacker dont get punished by concord but still get punished by the police force on gates and stations ! And your sec status also got reduced ! ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/235 "2024-03-06T10:52:29Z")
That would be great. My gank char is already -10, so I don’t care, but if you manage to trick a carebear into shooting you and CONCORDOKEN themselves, that would be hilarious if they instantly get -10 ---
**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/236 "2024-03-06T10:56:27Z")
Its hard to gank if you are -10 so all power to you. Please keep it at -10. Ganked by accident is rare, i mean i doubt it has ever happened, but thumbs up for using the “think of the new people who might gank on accident” argument 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/237 "2024-03-06T10:57:28Z")
> [@Dchill](#): > > Its hard to gank if you are -10 so all power to you. Please keep it at -10. It’s not if you know how the game works ---
**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/238 "2024-03-06T10:57:42Z")
So how does a gank work when you are -10 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/239 "2024-03-06T10:58:58Z")
> [@Dchill](#): > > In New Eden you cannot die because of cloning but your assets can be destroyed, so ganking is a bigger crime than murder and people who do it should become -10 security status instantly. With the advent of AI, we can actually go beyond this fairly ineffective system, and make the game even more fair. It should now be possible to feed an AI some information about ganker habits, like they way they act, the skills they train, and what they say in chat, in order to predict that any character is planning to engage in ganking. Then the game can set them -10 preemptively so that they lose their exploitative “first strike” advantage. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/240 "2024-03-06T10:59:02Z")
You just can’t sit around in space with -10 and have to warp directly into the targets face. But the gank itself is not different, as CONCORD is faster than the faction police [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832.md?page=13)