# Should Noir be stripped of Aidonis? **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [May 14, 2019, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-noir-be-stripped-of-aidonis/159591 "2019-05-14T10:34:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 21
**Author:** ![Trii\_Seo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trii_seo/32/498139_2.png) [@Trii\_Seo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trii_Seo)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-noir-be-stripped-of-aidonis/159591/21 "2019-08-09T11:04:52Z")
Once again, you confuse the facts: you called Gariushi’s address “Hate speech” in a previous post: > [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > Look, for example, what he said about Gariushi after the latter denounced Heth in his [hate speech](https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/breaking-news-ishukone-ceo-pleads-for-calm-denounces-tibus-heth/): I have pointed out that his words do not qualify as hate speech. Because they do not. If you were to start calling for people of Gallente ethnicity to be killed because of their ethnicity - that is hate speech. Similarily, calling for violence against homosexuals because of their sexual orientation - that is hate speech as well. If you were to call for the death of a singular Gallentean because they shot you (commited an action against you) it’s… really not, is it. (However, calling for the deaths of all Gallente because one of them shot you, so by some weird logic all of them are like that - does qualify). This is a very important distinction to make, especially in the case of Gariushi. His words were emotional, yes, but far from hatred - and spoken at a time where it was far too late for a polite discourse while drinking some tea. They weren’t even aimed at Heth at that point, they were aimed at the people while violence was rising on both sides. As for Heth - let’s look at his address after he took over as CEO of Caldari Constructions. > [@](#): > > It’s true that I led a coup against the masters of this corporation. I led this coup not expecting to survive, but my intent was never to kill my brothers. We spared the life of every guard and worker in the Armor Forge-you can ask them yourself. And I swear…that Caldari man did not have to die! It was the greed of mega-corporations that killed him; the greed of sinister men that was killing Caldari Constructions. How could our leadership allow this to happen? What was it that subverted them, that turned them towards this path? Think of it: all of those gifted, talented individuals, the so-called elite, whom we charged with guiding us? From where-or from whom-did they learn this path? > > It was learned from the same enemy they were supposed to protect us from. It was learned from the Gallenteans. In this instance, we see quite clearly, that he chose to place the blame for inefficiencies in the State Government to the Gallente. Because surely it could not have been nepotism, pure damn greed… no, that had to be the fault of an external foe. > [@](#): > > The Caldari people are the strongest souls of New Eden; no other nation has done so much with so little. An objective look back upon our history demonstrates that the Gallenteans, from the moment they contacted us, have been the bane of our existence. They and their righteousness, they and their criticism of our way of life, they and their insistence that their values are appropriate for us all…and still…still! This goes on today, just as it did a thousand years ago! > > Is it not insulting that they can just dismiss the culture we’ve held dear to us for generations; to blatantly dismiss the values which have kept us alive in this cruel universe? Their self-indulgence in moral proclamations is, make no mistake about it, a superiority complex, a hateful arrogance that blinds them to the vulnerability of our human selves. Classic, textbook “stoke the pride” nationalism. We are better, the other group is worse. > [@](#): > > My promise, my solemn swear, is to adhere with the values that made us who we are, and not to the corruption of those whom I have replaced. My responsibility is to rid the scourge of Gallentean ideals from the ranks of our corporate leaders, and I will demand accountability for the failure of our State. Villifying the enemy ideology again, because his vision of the State is better. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-noir-be-stripped-of-aidonis/159591)._