# Should Pirates gamble away loot to attract repeat business? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 11, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-pirates-gamble-away-loot-to-attract-repeat-business/205888 "2019-12-11T17:23:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-pirates-gamble-away-loot-to-attract-repeat-business/205888/1 "2019-12-11T17:23:14Z")
Gone are the days of hauling loot back to a market hub! Enter, hypernet relay! Load stolen goods into the lottery at great return! Get paid for it! Then kill the sucker who comes to get it. If a person already gambled a few million on a 100million isk item. And won the chance at 90% profit…they are much more likely to gamble again by going into LowSec to get it. And Pirates get a double win. Selling loot. Then bagging a kill. There’s no way to know who will be coming for what items and how. But the increased traffic will be that much more fun! ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-pirates-gamble-away-loot-to-attract-repeat-business/205888/2 "2019-12-11T18:08:13Z")
GO AWAY WITH YOUR ENTHUSIASM! 😠 ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-pirates-gamble-away-loot-to-attract-repeat-business/205888/3 "2019-12-11T18:10:27Z")
Unless the item is just Hypernetted again for ISK… Then the pirates loose, they get NOTHING, good day, sir! ---
**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-pirates-gamble-away-loot-to-attract-repeat-business/205888/4 "2019-12-11T18:54:27Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > Unless the item is just Hypernetted again for ISK… Then the pirates loose, they get NOTHING, good day, sir I may have misunderstood how this works? Dont you post item…receive payment when item is auctioned off at random lottery? How does reposting the item affect the Pirate’s initial gain? ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-pirates-gamble-away-loot-to-attract-repeat-business/205888/6 "2019-12-12T06:35:45Z")
If the lowsec pirate hangs at the station and the buyer comes in a small fast ship he can get into station and create another auction at a lower price then destroy his cheap ship and clone back to Jita. The winner is not required to move the item he wins… That aside it will learn people -who for some reaon buys stuff they cannot afford to loose- to use the (location)filters. I would reccomend you start a hauling service on your alts as you will make much more hauling that stuff out and in. ---
**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-pirates-gamble-away-loot-to-attract-repeat-business/205888/7 "2019-12-12T21:50:32Z")
> [@Shallanna\_Yassavi](#): > > They already do that with the regular market Not really lol. And the regular market isnt “global” for most players. Hypernet is? ---
**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-pirates-gamble-away-loot-to-attract-repeat-business/205888/8 "2019-12-12T21:51:15Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > The winner is not required to move the item he wins What I’m asking is what does that matter? The pirate still gets the money for their auction? ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-pirates-gamble-away-loot-to-attract-repeat-business/205888/9 "2019-12-12T22:31:49Z")
Yes he does. But that is not piracy. Piracy is downloading a car. You wouldn’t download a car, right? ---
**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-pirates-gamble-away-loot-to-attract-repeat-business/205888/10 "2019-12-12T22:34:13Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > Yes he does. > But that is not piracy. Piracy is downloading a car I just mean there’s no loss so should be good to at least do it ---
**Author:** ![dewk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dewk/32/168218_2.png) [@dewk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dewk)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-pirates-gamble-away-loot-to-attract-repeat-business/205888/11 "2020-02-20T20:28:53Z")
Pirate only wins if said item is won. If item fails, pirate looses 5% of the cost _(listing fee)_, and the cost of the hypercores used to list said item. To win the hypernet ticket price has to be good enough to get players to bid on the raffle. ---
**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-pirates-gamble-away-loot-to-attract-repeat-business/205888/12 "2020-02-20T21:41:49Z")
People can see what system the hypernet item is in. Most people wouldn’t bid on items in low/nullsec unless they were items that belonged there like capitals. So you loot a wreck, pay hypercores, the hypernet doesn’t complete in 3 days, and you lose said hypercores. Better to just use the market and have a long term sell order up. I see the OP as a ninja hypercore sales post. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-pirates-gamble-away-loot-to-attract-repeat-business/205888/13 "2020-02-21T04:17:11Z")
You made me cough on my rum. You horrible person you. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-pirates-gamble-away-loot-to-attract-repeat-business/205888/14 "2020-05-21T04:17:20Z")
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